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Old August 17th, 2010, 10:04 PM   #4681
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I don't think the actual base is going to be 116 meters wide...



But 80 meters is still frikin' impressive What a site...
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Old August 17th, 2010, 10:13 PM   #4682
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Cheers for doing the work on this - so yes, at least 4 Chicago spires would fit into it - but in terms of actual square footage it must be a lot bigger... ok, some GCSE maths...

Chicago spire area = Pie R squared = 3.14 x (57 x 57) = 10,200 sq ft.
Shanghai Tower = 3.14 x (190 x 190) = 113,354 sq ft

Shangahi Tower has an area 11.1 x bigger than the hole of Chicago Spire - Dam!!!
The Chicago Spire hole is only the size of the core of the tower. Just as with the Jin Mao and the SWFC though, the Shanghai Tower is much smaller than the actual hole that being dug.
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Old August 18th, 2010, 01:41 AM   #4683
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Shangahi Tower has an area 11.1 x bigger than the hole of Chicago Spire - Dam!!!
and hopefully it won't end like the Spire...

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Old August 18th, 2010, 03:58 AM   #4684
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ho3x.... not this time...
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Old August 18th, 2010, 07:42 AM   #4685
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I don't think the actual base is going to be 116 meters wide...



But 80 meters is still frikin' impressive What a site...
That sideways base actually makes a great looking highrise.
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Old August 18th, 2010, 01:24 PM   #4686
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Old August 19th, 2010, 03:25 AM   #4687
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Thats so funny...I almost fell off my chair
ST and Spire - similar in height, but the cores are not even close to being the same diameter...it seems to me, if Chicago were to build, half way up during construction its likely to topple over from the wind.
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Old August 19th, 2010, 05:26 AM   #4688
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Thats so funny...I almost fell off my chair
ST and Spire - similar in height, but the cores are not even close to being the same diameter...it seems to me, if Chicago were to build, half way up during construction its likely to topple over from the wind.
The Spire was all-residential. ST is office/hotel. Very different purposes. Residential buildings almost always have a smaller footprint than office buildings. Keep in mind, the 100 foot wide cofferdam for the Spire did not represent the full diameter of the building. It was probably around 150ft or more. The outside edges had huge supports for the rest of the building.

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Old August 19th, 2010, 06:03 AM   #4689
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Am i missing something? i don't get the joke..
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Old August 19th, 2010, 06:56 AM   #4690
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They put a cork in the Spire construction, and the site has been stagnant for what seems like ages now.
This is just a literal representation of putting a cork in it.
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Old August 19th, 2010, 12:13 PM   #4691
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No, he's just explaining that the base of Shanghai Tower and (if to be built) Chicago Spire
wouldn't vary that much in diameter. ST gets build well within the parameters of it's
cofferdam, and CS would become wider than the hole in the ground suggests...
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Old August 19th, 2010, 12:27 PM   #4692
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still chicago spire would only be like like 150 ft where as shanghai tower is like 300+ ft..........
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Old August 19th, 2010, 12:30 PM   #4693
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Based on cofferdam measurements, the two buildings would look like this hehe:


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Old August 19th, 2010, 01:33 PM   #4694
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Cheers for doing the work on this - so yes, at least 4 Chicago spires would fit into it - but in terms of actual square footage it must be a lot bigger... ok, some GCSE maths...

Chicago spire area = Pie R squared = 3.14 x (57 x 57) = 10,200 sq ft.
Shanghai Tower = 3.14 x (190 x 190) = 113,354 sq ft

Shangahi Tower has an area 11.1 x bigger than the hole of Chicago Spire - Dam!!!
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Old August 19th, 2010, 02:24 PM   #4695
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Based on cofferdam measurements, the two buildings would look like this hehe:

*edit*
My mistake- it's around 35 meters wide.
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Old August 19th, 2010, 02:27 PM   #4696
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Durr. That's the point. Next time try to read what's written above the picture before commenting on it.
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Old August 19th, 2010, 07:41 PM   #4697
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Daaaaamn! This tower will be HUGE!
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Old August 19th, 2010, 09:56 PM   #4698
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well it has it's first in some techniques that will be used to construct it so yes..it's a very special one
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The Spire was all-residential. ST is office/hotel. Very different purposes. Residential buildings almost always have a smaller footprint than office buildings. Keep in mind, the 100 foot wide cofferdam for the Spire did not represent the full diameter of the building. It was probably around 150ft or more. The outside edges had huge supports for the rest of the building.

From what I remember, the diameter at the base of the Spire was ~218ft.(~66.5m) It pretty much filled up the entire site with not much room between the roadway and the neighboring building. It wasn't as narrow and skinny as people are making it out to be.
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Old August 20th, 2010, 06:52 AM   #4700
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this thread is off topic, kinda
i wana see this tower rise real bad
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