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Old December 20th, 2010, 10:33 AM   #5641
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Shanghai's Jin Jiang to Build World's Highest Hotel, Displacing Hong Kong
By Bloomberg News - Dec 19, 2010

Shanghai Jin Jiang International Hotels Group Co. plans to build the world’s highest hotel in the Chinese city that will displace the neighboring Park Hyatt and the Ritz-Carlton that will open in Hong Kong in March.

The venture with Shanghai Tower Development Co. will develop the 258-room Shanghai Tower J-Hotel, between the 84th and 110th floors of the 121-story building, according to a Jin Jiang filing to the Hong Kong exchange yesterday. The 632-meter Shanghai Tower in the Pudong business hub is set to be the world’s second-tallest building when it’s completed in 2014.

Jin Jiang, which runs the historic Peace Hotel in Shanghai, is joining developers that have accelerated the building of landmark skyscrapers in the country. The Shanghai World Financial Center that was completed two years ago is now China’s tallest building, while the Shanghai Greenland Group Co. began constructing the world’s third-highest tower in the central Chinese city of Wuhan.

“Being the tallest sticks in people’s minds,” said Nicholas Mak, executive director and head of research and consultancy at SLP International Property Consultants Pte in Singapore. “There are many people who can claim they’re the most luxurious, but that’s a bit subjective. It’s technically challenging to build the tallest and this gives bragging rights to the owners.”

The Park Hyatt at the Shanghai World Financial Center is the world’s highest hotel, occupying the 79th to 93rd floors of the 492-meter building by Mori Building Co. The 828-meter Burj Khalifa in Dubai, which will remain the world’s tallest skyscraper even after Shanghai Tower’s completion, includes fashion icon Giorgio Armani’s first hotel on lower floors.

Ritz-Carlton

The Ritz-Carlton Hong Kong will occupy the 102th to 118th floors of the 490-meter International Commerce Centre in Kowloon, a height that will allow it to take the top spot from the Park Hyatt in Shanghai.

Jin Jiang’s Shanghai Tower hotel is being built to exceed Forbes (Mobil)’s Five-Star and AAA’s Five-Diamond standards, according to the statement. The property will help the Shanghai- based hotel operator build up its J-hotel brand, it said. It plans to develop 10 to 12 landmark properties in key cities “to capture first-mover advantage in China high-end hotel market,” it said.

“Having the highest hotel in the world obviously will draw significant, if somewhat short-lived, PR coverage,” said James Macdonald, head of China research at London-based property broker Savills Plc in Shanghai. In China, “we are going through a period when developers are developing the tallest buildings in the world and given that developers will typically place hotels at the top of any large-scale, mixed-use, high-rise building, this means that we are getting the tallest hotels in the world,” he said.

Shares Fall

Jin Jiang, which owns or runs more than 460 hotels, opened the Peace Hotel in July after three years of restoration. The property that once accommodated Charlie Chaplin and other celebrities was renamed Fairmont Peace Hotel, managed by Jin Jiang and Fairmont Hotels & Resorts Inc., which runs the Savoy hotel in London.

Jin Jiang’s shares have fallen 21 percent this year, compared with the 46 percent gain in the Bloomberg Asia Pacific Lodging Index. The stock lost 1.5 percent to HK$1.93 as of 12:07 p.m. in Hong Kong.

Shanghai has spruced up its infrastructure to host the $44 billion World Expo this year, which drew a record number of visitors during the six-month event. The city built two airport terminals and undertook a three-year renovation of The Bund, the city’s colonial-era waterfront boulevard, lined with historic buildings including the Peace Hotel.

China’s richest city also accelerated its expansion of the subway system to more than 400 kilometers (248 miles) to cater to the influx of visitors, making it the biggest city transport underground network in the country.
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Old December 20th, 2010, 02:19 PM   #5642
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Old December 20th, 2010, 02:27 PM   #5643
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This is mine understanding...I have no data, just a guess.

Quite correct:


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Old December 20th, 2010, 05:57 PM   #5644
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Spot-on. It sure looks correct from all the renders and plans posted before.
This building's gonna look amazing with its double cladding.
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Old December 20th, 2010, 11:48 PM   #5645
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It's an interesting way of creating such amazing and tall atrium-like spaces throughout the building. With that much floorspace you can really get away with it too.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 02:47 AM   #5646
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Good pics, current height must be over 50-60 meters high...
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Old December 21st, 2010, 05:27 AM   #5647
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Hi Nord.
Great work man. Excelent view of the size comparison. Your right - the outer wall is just inside the hole/circle at its 'points'.

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Hi Pat.
Great overlay. The top 'point' of the outer wall probably only looks to be outside the hole - a perspective thing ?

Now thats some good posting guys. Thanks.
So the points of the outer wall are ~ 5 meters from the edge of the hole/circle. As I posted yest. the hole doesn't seem to line up with anything. No biggie - I just wonder what the technical reason is for the size they chose.

Never enough technical info ...


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Old December 21st, 2010, 08:33 AM   #5648
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Very good visual comparison again. Excellent work you guys have done!
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 12:18 AM   #5649
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H-U-G-E core. I wonder how many lifts this building will have?
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 03:55 PM   #5650
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Nice pics....

Nice going...
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 08:09 PM   #5651
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Could someone tell me whats the concrete grade they are using for primary structure member?
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Old December 23rd, 2010, 04:08 AM   #5652
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Could someone tell me whats the concrete grade they are using for primary structure member?

Perhaps for reference


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Old December 23rd, 2010, 04:41 AM   #5653
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I wounder why don't they use something like C100 or C120. C50, oh...
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Old December 23rd, 2010, 05:24 AM   #5654
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Hi all.

Nice find Spruance.

We can see the 4 diagonal supercolumns only go up to section 5.
The other 8 are 3.7 by 5.3 meters in section 1 - massive.

Good to see some technical details are getting out.


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Old December 23rd, 2010, 01:13 PM   #5655
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WOW, that is bigger then most rooms.
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Old December 23rd, 2010, 01:36 PM   #5656
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i think Mod should sticky this Thread
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Old December 24th, 2010, 01:54 AM   #5657
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Wow cool
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Old December 24th, 2010, 09:06 AM   #5658
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Yes, Mod, please sticky this thread.
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Old December 24th, 2010, 09:28 AM   #5659
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Yes please do. Third that
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