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Old January 9th, 2011, 12:48 PM   #5821
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I spot alot more crane parts, and also 2 crane/tower tie things (can't think of what there called), are there going to be 4 tower cranes?
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Old January 10th, 2011, 04:42 AM   #5822
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i think the contruction are very slow the SWFC itnst slow than this building
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Old January 10th, 2011, 05:06 AM   #5823
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I spot alot more crane parts, and also 2 crane/tower tie things (can't think of what there called), are there going to be 4 tower cranes?
It looks like one of the cranes jumped already, and there are a bunch of red tower parts waiting for the other one.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 06:25 AM   #5824
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I doubt they will assemble the two new cranes before the new year travel season hits in two weeks.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 07:04 AM   #5825
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Actually a little more than three weeks from today is Chinese new year so i think they might.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 02:29 PM   #5826
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It probably is about 100m tall which somebody said - but it just doesn't feel like it should be as the core is only about 2.5x wider than it's width - which is just silly! You'd expect a building to be 4-5x as big as it's core at 100m.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 02:49 PM   #5827
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One question guys:
I do not live in a country with such supertalls or even skyscrapers and therefore I love the new generation of supertalls in China, the only thing that personally bothers me though and i've seen others mentioning it is the area which is not covered by the towers. I mean around the base of the Shanghai tower or the Jin Mao, there is a lot of green space. On the ine hand this is good as in a huge city like Shanghai green space is vital and needs to be protected but dont you think that this 'alienates' the towers from the common Chinese people who walk in the streets around the tower? shouldnt the design also aim to incirporate the new towers into the cityscape in the street leve aswell?
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Old January 10th, 2011, 05:30 PM   #5828
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One question guys:
I do not live in a country with such supertalls or even skyscrapers and therefore I love the new generation of supertalls in China, the only thing that personally bothers me though and i've seen others mentioning it is the area which is not covered by the towers. I mean around the base of the Shanghai tower or the Jin Mao, there is a lot of green space. On the ine hand this is good as in a huge city like Shanghai green space is vital and needs to be protected but dont you think that this 'alienates' the towers from the common Chinese people who walk in the streets around the tower? shouldnt the design also aim to incirporate the new towers into the cityscape in the street leve aswell?
There are no 'common' people in this area. Either business men or tourists. It's not a place that you are going to walk around just for fun (okay maybe a few times for the skyscrapers) If you want good street interaction its better to go the other side of the river where you have very big shopping streets. (Nanjing Road for example). This area is very car oriented. Big streets, lots of parking space. I don't think this area was meant to be walking around in the first place. It's all high end office spaces, expensive malls, and huge hotels.

For Shanghai, this area is a refreshment because the rest of the city is so dense...

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Old January 10th, 2011, 05:40 PM   #5829
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oh, i see
thank you very much Atmosphere
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Old January 10th, 2011, 05:44 PM   #5830
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Old January 10th, 2011, 05:48 PM   #5831
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oh, i see
thank you very much Atmosphere
Unfortunately, you see this trend (big buildings with green areas around it and almost no street life, except cars) more and more in China (and other country's). Having a small part of the city like this is nice, but we shouldn't use it to much.

This area of Shanghai is a nice example how it can work I think
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Old January 10th, 2011, 07:10 PM   #5832
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One question guys:
I do not live in a country with such supertalls or even skyscrapers and therefore I love the new generation of supertalls in China, the only thing that personally bothers me though and i've seen others mentioning it is the area which is not covered by the towers. I mean around the base of the Shanghai tower or the Jin Mao, there is a lot of green space. On the ine hand this is good as in a huge city like Shanghai green space is vital and needs to be protected but dont you think that this 'alienates' the towers from the common Chinese people who walk in the streets around the tower? shouldnt the design also aim to incirporate the new towers into the cityscape in the street leve aswell?
I ahve to agree with you. Seeing all that wasted space in the heart of a city is upsetting.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 07:20 PM   #5833
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You can hate the car lot around the SWFC, but you can't say all these green space is waste, right?
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Old January 11th, 2011, 02:28 AM   #5834
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You can hate the car lot around the SWFC, but you can't say all these green space is waste, right?
It is when you put a fence around them...

It would be nice if there was a little more connection with the streetlife. That's what makes New York so vibrant for example...
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Old January 11th, 2011, 05:18 AM   #5835
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It is when you put a fence around them...

It would be nice if there was a little more connection with the streetlife. That's what makes New York so vibrant for example...
Lujiazui is designed to be a dedicated CBD, therefore most people should arrive in subways or cars and enter the building directly. It's not unlike Pari's La Défense, you don't walk around there everyday unless you work there. On the other hand, the actual center of Shanghai near People's Square has lots of skyscrapers, and lot's of street level shops, similar to US downtowns.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 05:32 AM   #5836
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People's Square, East and West Nanjing road, Xujiahui, etc. These are the places people come for the so called street life.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 08:09 AM   #5837
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...and they are way more vibrant and bustling than any "downtown" in the US.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 10:19 AM   #5838
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It's growing fast.It should be done in 2014 if I remember correctly
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Old January 11th, 2011, 01:42 PM   #5839
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Taken by me today 6 hours ago. How come there are so mcuh spam recent?

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Old January 11th, 2011, 01:49 PM   #5840
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great shot. this is becoming quite imposing now
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