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Old January 12th, 2011, 06:01 AM   #5861
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Go on here, please
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Old January 12th, 2011, 09:26 AM   #5862
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LOL I'm glad to know I'm not the only one described as weird by my friends when I told them about my interest in skyscrapers and infrastructure.

Back to topic, still no signs of assembly of the additional cranes.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 01:04 PM   #5863
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Actually yesterday when i drove past the site there was a lot of red steel structures lying there, i think it will be either used to elevate the original crane or to construct the new cranes.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 06:22 PM   #5864
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this eara is not "the heart of shanghai",but finicial and business eara. the heart of shanghai is in puxi districts.
Oh cut out the pedantry. The financial district is a prime location and whatever you call it, it is upsetting seeing space utilised ineffectively.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 07:04 PM   #5865
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I think pretty much everywhere inside the inner ring is quite vibrant in Shanghai =/
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Old January 12th, 2011, 08:07 PM   #5866
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I know its ridiculously early to be asking this question, but I was just viewing pictures of Shanghais skyline and I had to ask

When is the building expected to top out, pass Jin Mao, and pass SWFC?

I know its sceduled to be complete 2014, but topping out is a different story.

Thanks for answering, and sorry if this has been answered before
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Old January 12th, 2011, 09:21 PM   #5867
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Oh cut out the pedantry. The financial district is a prime location and whatever you call it, it is upsetting seeing space utilised ineffectively.
This is just silly, so NYC should get rid of Central Park and build skyscrapers there? The green areas around Pudong's skyscrapers, despite the fact that you can't walk on them, are aesthetically pleasing.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 12:23 AM   #5868
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This is just silly, so NYC should get rid of Central Park and build skyscrapers there? The green areas around Pudong's skyscrapers, despite the fact that you can't walk on them, are aesthetically pleasing.
Ah but that's the key difference. Green space should be designed as a focal point of an area where people can actually relax and socialise, and contribute to the wider urban realm. Filling the space between buildings, green space just kills any vibrancy. And it's not just poor design of greenspace, wide and impermeable roads and building fronts are also detrimental to Lujiazui's urban environment. Lujiazui still feels sterile and cold during the best of working hours, and at other times practially dead, what a waste of a location that had potential to be a vibrant centre.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 12:31 AM   #5869
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that's true in china. i dare not talk about skyscraper with my friends,they will think i am so weird and naive.
Why naive?
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Old January 13th, 2011, 12:41 AM   #5870
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Does anybody know when are they supposed to start erecting the whole structure in addition to the core?
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Old January 13th, 2011, 01:29 AM   #5871
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that's true in china. i dare not talk about skyscraper with my friends,they will think i am so weird and naive.
I do and it's not an issue at all.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 04:52 AM   #5872
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I do and it's not an issue at all.
Skyscrapers/bridges/airports, like passenger aircrafts, is not something people will openly discuss with everyone since its a 'one of a kind' interest. Unlike cars and girls for guys or shopping/clothes for girls, skyscrapers and architecture isn't a natural/common interest for most people.

I study Mechanical engineering in Australia and have many civil friends, however, they have little to no interest in Skyscrapers or bridges. I advertise this site to them and they go on it and ask me, 'whats so interesting about the site?' lol. They still stick to their car talk and stuff like that, so its not a China thing to be honest.

They don't know how to appreciate the massive planning that China does like this Pudong area or the Zhu jiang new city in Guangzhou. The only reason they appreciate stuff in Dubai is because it holds the tallest building title, thats all!!!!!! From a skyscraper fan's perspective, we know that tallest is not always best, so many 200m towers going up which look a lot better than Burj etc.

I am quite lucky to come across this site and to meet so many people which have the same interest as me lol and that appreciate all this zoning and planning. I also learn a lot of civil stuff which i don't get taught at uni. Its actually beneficial and keeps me up to date with whats happening around the world as well, ie London Olympics, stuff going up in France, USA etc

Lol went so off topic there hahahahaahaha

Thing is, when this gets built, will it cover the financial centre and part of Jinmao when viewed from the Bund? Maybe not jinmao, but i think it will cover the financial centre right? the only view would be to look from Suzhou river direction, then you will be able to see all three?
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Old January 13th, 2011, 12:18 PM   #5873
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I know its ridiculously early to be asking this question, but I was just viewing pictures of Shanghais skyline and I had to ask

When is the building expected to top out, pass Jin Mao, and pass SWFC?

I know its sceduled to be complete 2014, but topping out is a different story.

Thanks for answering, and sorry if this has been answered before

As the top bit is quite different from the lower 90% (a bit like the London Shard) I'd expect a long pause between the main structure finishing and the steel lattice bit completing - so maybe late 2012 for passing the others, and June 2013 for topping out... but that's a guess.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 03:24 PM   #5874
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Ah but that's the key difference. Green space should be designed as a focal point of an area where people can actually relax and socialise, and contribute to the wider urban realm. Filling the space between buildings, green space just kills any vibrancy. And it's not just poor design of greenspace, wide and impermeable roads and building fronts are also detrimental to Lujiazui's urban environment. Lujiazui still feels sterile and cold during the best of working hours, and at other times practially dead, what a waste of a location that had potential to be a vibrant centre.
perfectly said!!! Couldn't agree more
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Old January 13th, 2011, 03:55 PM   #5875
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Old January 13th, 2011, 04:04 PM   #5876
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Does anybody know when are they supposed to start erecting the whole structure in addition to the core?
I have the feeling that starting of that work is related to the progress of the ground structure outside of the big circular hole, since (correct me if I'm wrong) the main structure at the bottom part is wider then the hole.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 05:28 PM   #5877
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Hmm, I don't agree. Most people don't care about skyscraper CONSTRUCTION and details like HEIGHTS and architectural elements, I agree with you on that. But almost every person is impressed when seeing a big skyline. I mean, one of the main reasons that New York is so famous is because of it's skyscrapers. I can not think of any friends that are not impressed by seeing huge skyscrapers. They just aren't interested in the details but they still love seeing them.

Can you think of any (bus) travel agencies that does not stop on the Bund to let the tourists on board take a bunch of pictures of the impressive skyline.
i also agree! even in my city of minneapolis we get all kinds of people looking up and pointing to our towers, which i should add pale in comparison to other cities like shanghai. they spark imagination and amusement in millions of people everywhere.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 05:43 PM   #5878
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Wow this is pretty insane.. 4 cranes??
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Old January 13th, 2011, 05:50 PM   #5879
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I can see the first perimeter column above ground ...
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Old January 13th, 2011, 06:54 PM   #5880
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