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Old February 7th, 2011, 03:00 AM   #6141
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Why do guys think it will be metal? It can be tinted glass too.
I don't know what material will be used. I just put copper up as a possibility seeing as the render shows a copper coloured roof. That was quickly shot down by 2 people who don't know what they are talking about, hence the replies and subsequent discussion.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 03:23 AM   #6142
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@kix111 do you really think I'm a parson?.........dhead.
Yea i do, actually i think you are some parson's nose, although from the original post i was referring to "the_chemist".
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Old February 7th, 2011, 05:07 AM   #6143
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You'll still talking about copper. Wow it's been a few hours now.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 07:31 AM   #6144
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Why do guys think it will be metal? It can be tinted glass too.
Because from the renders it is clear that the architect/consultant has proposed not to use glass there butaluminium or other composite cladding panels.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 07:36 AM   #6145
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The only problem here would be it's tendency to form verdigris meaning it would turn blue green pretty quickly.


The point being that when copper oxydises the patina formed does not flake away and prevents further oxydation.
Unlike iron which does rust and then flakes away exposing new metal to the air. This is one reason why copper is a very good roofing material, also many people find the oxydised colour formed far from unattractive.

@kix111 do you really think I'm a parson?.........dhead.
And it was explained why it would not be used, for both cost, visual and prestige reasons.

.... and a newbie calling another random user a 'dickhead'? I would be more careful if I was you.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 11:27 AM   #6146
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Maybe they will use some kind of stone, copper? Don't think so.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 11:41 AM   #6147
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Uh... stone??

Anyways, copper is fine as a roofing material. It requires little maintenance if used properly and has good longevity. It tarnishes (it generally does not rust), and the thin oxidized layer prevents further corrosion. Certain alloys result in different end colours of the patina. Since most of them are usually green or dark brown, I don't think copper will be used on this building as it looks like it calls for very light brown or even yellowish orange.

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Old February 7th, 2011, 11:52 AM   #6148
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Uh... stone??


Well, looks like stone to me
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Old February 7th, 2011, 01:56 PM   #6149
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As long as the result is similar to that Dubai railway station, then everything is good.

And... yea im the "another random user" AltinD was talking about LOL
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Old February 7th, 2011, 07:30 PM   #6150
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Well, looks like stone to me
I see, maybe that front wall section, though it looks more like concrete.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 10:43 PM   #6151
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That part can end up be all of the mentioned materials, and more. Stone, concrete, marble, aluminium/composite panels, etc.

Let's wait and see.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 11:40 PM   #6152
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I love how even though it's effectively on hold (just for a few days), the building's thread can still be more active then others on this forum
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Old February 8th, 2011, 01:05 AM   #6153
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"And it was explained why it would not be used, for both cost, visual and prestige reasons."


So copper would be more costly but less prestigious? how does that work?
Joshsam was right altind, with you it's all about the bling. You may well be right that they won't use copper, perhaps the chinese want bling as well. Although this tower is so outstanding that it doesn't need bling and would perhaps be better served with something a little more understated.
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Old February 8th, 2011, 02:20 AM   #6154
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worked out height is 51m not 42m.
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Old February 8th, 2011, 03:58 AM   #6155
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I love how even though it's effectively on hold (just for a few days), the building's thread can still be more active then others on this forum
This thread has been more active than ever, ironically during the on hold period ><
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Old February 8th, 2011, 04:19 AM   #6156
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"And it was explained why it would not be used, for both cost, visual and prestige reasons."


So copper would be more costly but less prestigious? how does that work?
Joshsam was right altind, with you it's all about the bling. You may well be right that they won't use copper, perhaps the chinese want bling as well. Although this tower is so outstanding that it doesn't need bling and would perhaps be better served with something a little more understated.
bling = gold, diamonds and crystals, not aluminium as tens of thousands of towers and other buildings out there.

... but I see your personal experience with 21st Century towers isn't any different that josham's
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Old February 8th, 2011, 09:37 AM   #6157
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Old February 8th, 2011, 10:02 AM   #6158
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" bling = gold, diamonds and crystals, not aluminium as tens of thousands of towers and other buildings out there. "

No. bling = bright and shiny


"... but I see your personal experience with 21st Century towers isn't any different that josham's "

Very constructive.

I suppose my personal experience with 21st century towers equates to your own personal experience with chinese 21st century towers.
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Old February 8th, 2011, 10:57 AM   #6159
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Spring festival actually gives this city of 23 million people a chance to be empty...




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Old February 8th, 2011, 11:03 AM   #6160
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Woooahh - can't believe it's so empty! I was there this time last year and can't remember it being like this!
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