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Old March 21st, 2011, 01:22 PM   #6641
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not many updates these days i wanna see shanghai towers!!!
It's rainy, wet, and cold.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 04:03 PM   #6642
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thanks! that was fast!
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Old March 21st, 2011, 09:10 PM   #6643
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NY sucks, the worst 'global city' I have ever lived in. It only looks good from helicopters, the metro system is a nightmare....
FAIL -> u are kidding me -> u definitely know nothing about new york
u shouldnt lie - new york city is famous for its excellent subway and metro system .... u can move to every point of the city with it. name a city which has a better system than new york...
i think u never lived in it
Of course not a lot people want to live in such a big city ... i know sometimes its too stressful with all those people...

the USA is not that bad ... there are just a lot of prejudices about it ...
honestly the friendliest people u can find live in the usa.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 09:13 PM   #6644
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sorry but i had to comment this ... it was just too funny
back to topic..
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Old March 21st, 2011, 09:51 PM   #6645
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Who will be going in the SWFC deck anyway when they could be going in the Shanghai Tower.
That is why Shanghai needs to build 700m and 800m tall buildings so that they can get good views above Jinmao and SWFC.

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Old March 21st, 2011, 10:22 PM   #6646
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Its too soon for Shanghai's 700 and 800 meter tall buildings
Shanghai Tower should be allowed to rule for at least 15/20 years
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Old March 21st, 2011, 10:29 PM   #6647
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It will rule for at least a decade but that doesn't mean they aren't plotting something evil already to up the ante
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 12:25 AM   #6648
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Shanghai tower and is one of the last plot left for Lujiazui until the Eastern expansion. So i would say Shanghai Tower will probably be the perpetual tallest for Shanghai.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 04:36 AM   #6649
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FAIL -> u are kidding me -> u definitely know nothing about new york
u shouldnt lie - new york city is famous for its excellent subway and metro system .... u can move to every point of the city with it. name a city which has a better system than new york...
i think u never lived in it
man, are you coming from middle ages?

'New York City is famous for its excellent subway and metro system, name a city which has a better system than new york'.



I'm not very interested in arguing with you, you need to do some homework before daydreaming.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 06:26 AM   #6650
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I love NYC to death and even I'm not delusional enough to think its subway system is on par with London/Tokyo.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 07:05 AM   #6651
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u shouldnt lie - new york city is famous for its excellent subway and metro system .... u can move to every point of the city with it. name a city which has a better system than new york...
That's funny, because London Underground, Tokyo Metro, Moscow Metro, Hong Kong MTR, Taipei MRT, and even the Seoul Subway are better systems than New York when you are talking about reliability, safety, as well as quality.

The New York subway might be world famous, but not the world's finest. It is to be updated.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 07:37 AM   #6652
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Off topic, but isn't new york adding new lines as we speak?
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 08:52 AM   #6653
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That's funny, because London Underground, Tokyo Metro, Moscow Metro, Hong Kong MTR, Taipei MRT, and even the Seoul Subway are better systems than New York when you are talking about reliability, safety, as well as quality.

The New York subway might be world famous, but not the world's finest. It is to be updated.
It's a little silly to judge the quality of a city on the quality of its subway system. NYC's subway is so, so much older so of course it's going to look more run-down and less modern. But New York unquestionably has a higher standard of living.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:34 AM   #6654
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It's a little silly to judge the quality of a city on the quality of its subway system.
I did not suggest at all that New York is a bad city in the above post.

The London Underground is about 40 years older than NYC Subway, yet it is a much more superior system. The Tokyo subway is around 20 years older than NYC subway yet again it is a much superior system.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:43 AM   #6655
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Shanghai tower and is one of the last plot left for Lujiazui until the Eastern expansion. So i would say Shanghai Tower will probably be the perpetual tallest for Shanghai.
The original plans from early 90's consisted that of 3 supertalls standing next to each other, but at that time there were no discussion regarding total height nor designs. Who knows for sure what will happen, stopping at Shanghai Tower just doesn't make sense for China's booming economy. Saying that Shanghai Tower is "last plot left for Lujiazui" is way too naive. What would you expect Shanghai to do once the tower is completed? Lean back and enjoy the view? No, no, no... they're reaching much higher than this, I'm sure.

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:57 AM   #6656
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It's a little silly to judge the quality of a city on the quality of its subway system. NYC's subway is so, so much older so of course it's going to look more run-down and less modern. But New York unquestionably has a higher standard of living.
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Just a kind reminder, the first subway was in London. Checking the Wikipedia:
"The first rapid transit system was the London Underground, which opened in 1863. "

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 10:27 AM   #6657
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Shanghai: 1990 vs 2010.

[IMG]http://oi53.************/978hoi.jpg[/IMG]

That's alot of progress in 20 years. I wonder how it will look like in another 20 years?
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 10:51 AM   #6658
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Shanghai: 1990 vs 2010.

[IMG]http://oi53.************/978hoi.jpg[/IMG]

That's alot of progress in 20 years. I wonder how it will look like in another 20 years?
in all honesty, probably not a whole lot different. The Lujiazui "master plan" is almost complete and I doubt there are any more megaprojects in the pipeline. For the future, I think Puxi will see more supertalls being constructed than Pudong. Also, emerging megacities around Shanghai such as Hangzhou, Suzhou and Wuxi will be hotbeds of supertall development. We're already starting to see some massive projects planned for those areas.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:02 AM   #6659
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Its too soon for Shanghai's 700 and 800 meter tall buildings
Shanghai Tower should be allowed to rule for at least 15/20 years
I am not sure, there are many 600m+ projects already approved in China, in different provinces
in China, there is intense competition among provinces, for showing off provincial prestige, and as symbol of economic prosperity in that region. They are willing to pour billions after billions into the skyscraper race, even 2nd line and 3rd line cities are building 300+.
the race is on, man
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:27 AM   #6660
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The Lujiazui masterplan will be expanded eastwards over the next decade. However, the above view won't change much since most development will happen behind the bulk of the towers.
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