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Old March 23rd, 2011, 09:48 PM   #6741
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No way... Gensler website today:

http://www.gensler.com/#projects/58
This says 121 stories. Is that how many it really has and 128 is only the technical count? Or was it really scaled down at some point? I am not refering to the recent "scare." Was it scaled down keeping the same basic design?

*Is is 121 or 128 stories?
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 09:50 PM   #6742
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No way... Gensler website today:

http://www.gensler.com/#projects/58
This says 121 stories. Is that how many it really has and 128 is only the technical count? Or was it really scaled down at some point? I am not refering to the recent "scare." Was it scaled down keeping the same basic design? By the way I kind of like the scare/old design. It's slightly shorter but it looks bigger.

*Is is 121 or 128 stories?
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 11:56 PM   #6743
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i am pretty sure this was a rejected previous proposal...

in the picture below you can see these three outdated informations about the other skyscrapers. i think this proves that it must be an old design

-Burj Dubai was renamed to Burj Khalifa one year ago
-same for Sears Tower (called Willis Tower now)
-last but not least, Burj Dubai is 828m tall instead of 700m

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Old March 23rd, 2011, 11:57 PM   #6744
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Where is Zorg or Kix? We need you two to come and tell us whats happening
The current construction looks totally in conformity with the "old" design. Look how the super columns are interconnected with round floor plates disregarding the podium structure.

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Old March 24th, 2011, 12:27 AM   #6745
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Just look at the project boards next to the sidewalk, we really need a "spring cleaning" of trolls
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Old March 24th, 2011, 01:16 AM   #6746
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I believe the true design is the twisting tower design because the construction photos show the super columns are gently tapering.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 01:47 AM   #6747
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I think Oasis-Bangkok just made a mistake, and a quite obvious one I might add, no need to be too hash on him/her though.

the base and the core are built exactly according to the gensler design. plus all the official documents from the designer, construction company, building management company and local government, I find it impossible to even imagine there could even be such a drastic change in the building design at this stage.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 01:50 AM   #6748
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This says 121 stories. Is that how many it really has and 128 is only the technical count? Or was it really scaled down at some point? I am not refering to the recent "scare." Was it scaled down keeping the same basic design? By the way I kind of like the scare/old design. It's slightly shorter but it looks bigger.

*Is is 121 or 128 stories?
I believe the height including crown has a technical height of 128 floors, while there are in reality 121 floors.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 01:50 AM   #6749
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This rejected design is actually quite decent. Remember the proposals for Shanghai tower back then? Only a handful of them was good, the rest were too strange and not up to scratch
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Old March 24th, 2011, 01:59 AM   #6750
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Because there are a lot of designs submitted by the Chinese.. both universities and firms.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 02:36 AM   #6751
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I think that might be a proto-type to Shanghai tower. Got to admit I really like it! The top is really nice with that open space on top.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 02:41 AM   #6752
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the new desig is better imho!
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Old March 24th, 2011, 03:27 AM   #6753
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What if it is the twin tower?
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Old March 24th, 2011, 05:25 PM   #6754
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Man I don't know how so many of these new supertalls have such high feet per floor ratios. I know that currently the Stephen P. Clark Government Center (a building in Miami-it looks like a giant bomb shelter) is considered to have one of the highest roof height to floor count ratios of any building. You can see why, look how high the windows start and how low they end. It's quite tall and only like 30 floors. I think it divides out to be like 16 feet per floor. This thing, the Shanghai Tower, will be around 16 feet per floor as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if the lower floors have higher ceilings, but then the higher ones have lower ceilings so more are concentrated towards the top, because obviously everyone wants to be on a higher floor, whether living or working there. If the bottom floors were 20 feet and the top ones were 12, there would be more top floors. Either way the average on all these new buildings is very high, as in very few floors relative to height.

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Old March 24th, 2011, 07:01 PM   #6755
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What if it is the twin tower?
Then i need to vomit twice no that not possible yet.....
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Old March 24th, 2011, 07:49 PM   #6756
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Man I don't know how so many of these new supertalls have such high feet per floor ratios. I know that currently the Stephen P. Clark Government Center (a building in Miami-it looks like a giant bomb shelter) is considered to have one of the highest roof height to floor count ratios of any building. You can see why, look how high the windows start and how low they end. It's quite tall and only like 30 floors. I think it divides out to be like 16 feet per floor. This thing, the Shanghai Tower, will be around 16 feet per floor as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if the lower floors have higher ceilings, but then the higher ones have lower ceilings so more are concentrated towards the top, because obviously everyone wants to be on a higher floor, whether living or working there. If the bottom floors were 20 feet and the top ones were 12, there would be more top floors. Either way the average on all these new buildings is very high, as in very few floors relative to height.
It probably has to do mostly with the use of the floors. Modern Class A office space generally has 13'-14' floor heights, while residential might be 10'-11'. Mech floors can be 20'+.
Since most multi-use bulidings have the offices in the lower part and the residential areas near the top, your theory about more floors higher up sort of works out.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 08:39 PM   #6757
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It's a Lol, NO?
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Old March 24th, 2011, 10:55 PM   #6758
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It's a Lol, NO?

Yes, it's an lol

It's an old proposal
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Old March 25th, 2011, 09:18 AM   #6759
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even its old proposal, but still breathtaking to see that pictures
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Old March 25th, 2011, 11:12 AM   #6760
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i like the new design the old one is lame
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