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Old February 3rd, 2008, 04:55 PM   #741
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i remeber shanghai goverment stopped super tall building approval.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 08:11 PM   #742
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They can easily change their policies again, I can imagine that they would like to have the tallest in the world.

But hopefully we see some real info soon, this ongoing situation of knowing next to nothing only leads to more and more speculation.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 08:33 PM   #743
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they might, but its not going to happen. it would look right out of place, and i dont think they would want that to happen to their great skyline
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 08:43 PM   #744
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I don't think it'd look out of place. Especially in a long term, since they're planning a huge eastwards extension for Lujiazui CBD, and many 180-250m will be added. In which other area of Shanghai would you build such a titan? Lujiazui is the only suitable area.

On the other hand, the best location for a monstertall would be the current location of the TV Tower imo. Also, I wish they'll remove the huge Lujiazui park and build a nice cluster of 300-450m towers there, preserving only the center of the park. Maybe in a long term. Lujazui has too much greenery, a total waste of space.

Anyway, I don't think they are planning something higher than 600-650m for this plot.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 08:48 PM   #745
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Lujazui has too much greenery, a total waste of space.
that's what makes Shanghai beautiful.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 08:51 PM   #746
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188 floors
820 meters tall

hope this is for real!!!!
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 08:55 PM   #747
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that's what makes Shanghai beautiful.
Shanghai is not just Lujiazui, and Lujiazui would be far more beautiful if they built some supertalls on that park.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 08:58 PM   #748
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188 floors
820 meters tall

hope this is for real!!!!
it's not
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Old February 4th, 2008, 12:18 AM   #749
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Personally,

I'm not really hoping for the Shanghai Centre to be a really tall building... just taller than the SWFC will be good enough for me. To be taller than Burj Dubai is ridiculous. Think about how out-of-place it will look.

I hope Shanghai doesn't do what Hong Kong did with 2 IFC.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 06:43 AM   #750
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holy crap i hope they won't make it that big! i prefer it if all three supertalls were around the same height with no difference of 150m from smallest to tallest otherwise it won't sync in with the surrounding although i prefer this!

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Old February 4th, 2008, 07:19 AM   #751
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Personally,

I'm not really hoping for the Shanghai Centre to be a really tall building... just taller than the SWFC will be good enough for me. To be taller than Burj Dubai is ridiculous. Think about how out-of-place it will look.

I hope Shanghai doesn't do what Hong Kong did with 2 IFC.
I agree as well. A Burj Dubai style height doesn't fit The Lujiazui landscape.

As for the 2-IFC, yes it is taller than its neighbouring scrapers but once the ICC is up, you'll see the significance.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 08:21 AM   #752
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One off beat question.

Oriental Pearl-observation decks
Jin Mao-observation deck
SWFC-observation decks
Shanghai Center-??????




If Shanghai Center can crack the 600m barrier it will be fine. No need to go as high as BD.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 08:30 AM   #753
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One off beat question.

Oriental Pearl-observation decks
Jin Mao-observation deck
SWFC-observation decks
Shanghai Center-??????




If Shanghai Center can crack the 600m barrier it will be fine. No need to go as high as BD.
The question is, does it need one? All three supertalls have their. Shanghai Centre is it had one would just be higher
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Old February 4th, 2008, 10:18 AM   #754
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its always nice to have an observation deck. =)

i have some thoguhts about hotels in supertalls...i hope there will be no hotel placed in shanghai center because not a lot of people would stay in the hotel during the evening, so there will not be as much lighting from inside as offices. this makes the building look empty, thats exactly what happened to jinmao
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Old February 4th, 2008, 10:36 AM   #755
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A Burj Dubai sized supertall wouldn't look out of place if it was as skinny as the BD. The silhouettes of the BD and the (slab side) WFC are not so different that one would completely overshadow the other, even though the Burj is way taller.
A blocky 800m+ though would make the rest of the skyline look tiny...
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Old February 4th, 2008, 10:49 AM   #756
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Oh guys, why are you so conservative. Do you really find this jewel out of place?


Make it 80m~ taller and you have a BD there. It would be so great. Notice that after SIFC towers are finished as well as the 3 plots next to them (X3-1, X3-2, X3-3), you'll only be able to see the upper third of the Jin Mao and SWFC from Waitan. A monster one growing behind up to the sky would be amazing.

Anyway, this is pure 意淫, the final design wont be taller than 650m, you'll see...
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Oh guys, why are you so conservative. Do you really find this jewel out of place?


Make it 80m~ taller and you have a BD there. It would be so great. Notice that after SIFC towers are finished as well as the 3 plots next to them (X3-1, X3-2, X3-3), you'll only be able to see the upper third of the Jin Mao and SWFC from Waitan. A monster one growing behind up to the sky would be amazing.

Anyway, this is pure ??, the final design wont be taller than 650m, you'll see...
It makes the Jin-Mao and the SWFC look like cubbies
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Old February 4th, 2008, 02:02 PM   #758
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The question is, does it need one? All three supertalls have their. Shanghai Centre is it had one would just be higher
I think every time shanghai builds a new highest they're gonna want an observation deck up there. Personally i think the only one which will lose business is jin mao. The pearl tower is far enough away, and such an unusual shape that people will still visit it. The sky bridge in the world financial centre is simply stunning, and will attract huge crowds, and if the shanghai centre goes as big as some are suggesting then it will attract large crowds due to it's height alone. I think people are gonna be less interested by the jin mao one as more stuff goes up.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 10:33 PM   #759
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i would visit all 3 OB-decks . must be an impressive feeling to stand on jim mao first and look up to the other towers and then look down to Jin Mao
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Old February 5th, 2008, 01:48 AM   #760
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^it may be too expensive on time or money if you are in shanghai for a short period. If you can only go up one i guess you'd choose either the sexy skybridge on SWFC, the randomness of the pearl, or the sheer height of this, jin mao will lose out in my opinion.
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