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Old September 18th, 2011, 05:00 AM   #8621
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But then Lujiazui isnt really Shanghai's CBD. I would consider Shanghai's CBD as Jin'an / People Square area. At least the rent for office in Lujiazui is less expensive than Jin'an / People Square.
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Old September 18th, 2011, 05:45 AM   #8622
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Jing'an and Luijazui are both CBD's, people's square the heart of town, but the (former) French Concession is the most lively part of town. The place where it is really happening. People's square and Nanjing Dong Lu are not so special, some nice museums and hotels, but the for the rest it is a tourist attraction.
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Old September 18th, 2011, 02:49 PM   #8623
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French Concession the most lively part of "town"? I suggest you get out of your vintage villa over there. Shanghai is an extremely lively city with multiple CBD's, central spots and places of gathering. Shanghai has no central heart, the Shanghainese carry it around with themselves everywhere.

Well... ST looking great btw. :P
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Old September 18th, 2011, 04:31 PM   #8624
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Old September 18th, 2011, 04:45 PM   #8625
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I was there last October, the energy of the place was cold and sad. The tall buildings need some friends on the ground. The center of the biggest city in China is surprisingly empty.
I know what you mean... needs way more street activity...


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If only that green park-ish area in front of the Jin Mao Tower and than the very large median strip closer to the foreground with the red flowers were removed and the road narrowed, it would be more efficient, allow more space for further skyscrapers/buildings/shops, and overally, it should naturally lead to more vibrancy.

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Old September 18th, 2011, 05:01 PM   #8626
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Isn't that grass area in front of the Jinmao another plot? Maybe it was in a dream but I'm sure someone on here mentioned a Jinmao phase 2..? (obviously a much smaller project)
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Old September 18th, 2011, 05:04 PM   #8627
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cant wait for the second belt truss...
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Old September 18th, 2011, 06:54 PM   #8628
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Old September 18th, 2011, 06:56 PM   #8629
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Old September 18th, 2011, 07:03 PM   #8630
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the top of the crane is visible in this pic
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Old September 18th, 2011, 07:05 PM   #8631
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I know what you mean... needs way more street activity...


even with the above posted photo for an example:

If only that green park-ish area in front of the Jin Mao Tower and than the very large median strip closer to the foreground with the red flowers were removed and the road narrowed, it would be more efficient, allow more space for further skyscrapers/buildings/shops, and overally, it should naturally lead to more vibrancy.
I think it is only good that there is much green space arround the complex. This makes the complex more appealing to people like me who love nature. I think a city which builds vertical (skyscrapers) and therefore has enough space for trees and grass is far superior to one that builds horizontaly (countless lowrises next to each other)
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Old September 18th, 2011, 08:01 PM   #8632
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Jing'an and Luijazui are both CBD's, people's square the heart of town, but the (former) French Concession is the most lively part of town. The place where it is really happening. People's square and Nanjing Dong Lu are not so special, some nice museums and hotels, but the for the rest it is a tourist attraction.
French Cconcession the most lively part of the town?get out of the westernized bubble champ,have you ever been in gubei or in the rest of the city? Jingan is not a CBD of SH ok? but Xuhui its . It has always been.
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Old September 18th, 2011, 08:17 PM   #8633
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French Cconcession the most lively part of the town?get out of the westernized bubble champ,have you ever been in gubei or in the rest of the city? Jingan is not a CBD of SH ok? but Xuhui its . It has always been.
Forget political designation, which have always been murky and inconsistent. In terms of functionality, the biggest CBD is the combined area of Old Huangpu (Bund - People's Square), Huangpi Road South Station and Xintiandi, with Lujiazui + Pudong Nanlu sitting second and Jing'an Temple through to Wangjiashe catching up fast - these are areas where grade-A office / 5-star hotel densities and retail turover are highest. I'd certainly class these as being in the centre of Shanghai.

The French Concession includes Huaihai Road which certainly is one of the most lively parts of Shanghai, though most of it is actually quiet residential areas.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 04:21 AM   #8634
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Old September 19th, 2011, 10:37 AM   #8635
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Old September 19th, 2011, 11:50 AM   #8636
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French Concession the most lively part of "town"? I suggest you get out of your vintage villa over there. Shanghai is an extremely lively city with multiple CBD's, central spots and places of gathering. Shanghai has no central heart, the Shanghainese carry it around with themselves everywhere.

Well... ST looking great btw. :P

Well don't live and work in the French Concession (FC). Of course Shanghai has many different CBD's and lively areas, but I think the mix of Western and Chinese facilities and people make this area unique for Shanghai. Plus it has some of the best urban streets, like Huaihai and fuxing lu. The opposite of Luijzahui.

Back on topic, good progress on the ST.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 09:41 PM   #8637
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It is great good job China!
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Old September 19th, 2011, 10:55 PM   #8638
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I know the supercolumns are an important part of the structure, but damn they are big. Almost view blockers. It would have been nicer if they were U shaped and each contained an elevator which looked out as it went up. WHAT A RIDE that would be.
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Old September 20th, 2011, 01:29 AM   #8639
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Yeah, the supercolumns are insane.
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Old September 20th, 2011, 05:30 AM   #8640
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much progress since i last checked this thread - which was only two or three weeks ago! props to the chinese builders
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