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Old November 28th, 2011, 01:22 AM   #9221
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From what I've heard, the skyscrapers in Lujiazui are 90% empty. People say that the skyscrapers are built by the government to show off their fake economy. According to them the government wants to give an impression of having many tertiary workers, but the truth is that 90% of population of China are peasants in the countryside living in misery.
Hi:
Many of the buildings are financed by foreign companies and banks.
For example SWFC is funded by a Japanese consortium led by Mori Co.
Therefore, these Japanese companies are using their money to show off fake Chinese economy? There is also a citibank tower their. The same can be said for citibank?
Please buy a ticket to visit SH for a few weeks and go to the buildings yourself to see what is the reality there.

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Old November 28th, 2011, 05:26 AM   #9222
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CTBUH Shanghai Tower case study (PDF document):
http://www.ctbuh.org/LinkClick.aspx?...language=en-US

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Old November 28th, 2011, 10:54 AM   #9223
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From what I've heard, the skyscrapers in Lujiazui are 90% empty. People say that the skyscrapers are built by the government to show off their fake economy. According to them the government wants to give an impression of having many tertiary workers, but the truth is that 90% of population of China are peasants in the countryside living in misery.
Damn right, the government hires thousands of people to pretend to go work in those buildings in Lujiazui. Most buildings are actually 90% empty.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 11:35 AM   #9224
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http://weburbanist.com/2011/01/10/th...rn-ghost-town/

To be fair, there is a real problem with empty construction projects that are built to maintain a certain level of GDP in China. I don't know if it applies to Lujiazui.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 11:50 AM   #9225
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http://weburbanist.com/2011/01/10/th...rn-ghost-town/

To be fair, there is a real problem with empty construction projects that are built to maintain a certain level of GDP in China. I don't know if it applies to Lujiazui.
Did you read the last paragraph of the article you linked?

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It may seem like a bizarre folly on behalf of the Chinese government, borne of severely misplaced optimism. But Ordos is indeed expanding at a rapid pace, home to a growing number of coal millionaires and producing China’s highest gross domestic product per capita. And pouring money into such new urban areas is part of a plan by China’s government to increase its middle class, benefiting the nation’s economy as a whole. Despite the current eerie silence of its streets, it’s probably safe to say that Kangbashi won’t be empty for long.
But it certainly doesn't apply to Lujiazui (vancancy rate under 9%). You can watch those masses of white collar workers leaving the buildings after work day after day.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 12:00 PM   #9226
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Not true. The skyscrapers are full of actors which are paid to pretend they are businessmen. But they'll never tell you that because their families may be executed.
Nice one z0rg
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Old November 28th, 2011, 12:57 PM   #9227
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From what I've heard, the skyscrapers in Lujiazui are 90% empty. People say that the skyscrapers are built by the government to show off their fake economy. According to them the government wants to give an impression of having many tertiary workers, but the truth is that 90% of population of China are peasants in the countryside living in misery.
Dear citizen if you ever go to Rome / Barcelona / London ..etc. you can see that the great majority of visitors are Chinese !!
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Old November 28th, 2011, 01:38 PM   #9228
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And that is why Lujiazui is 90% empty, they are all here.

And now back on topic please.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 02:44 PM   #9229
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On the topic:

Shanghai Tower grounds, before start of construction back in 2008, was a driving range.

What were the grounds of World Financial Centre and Jin Mao tower, respectively?
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Old November 28th, 2011, 05:50 PM   #9230
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Back on topic please.

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Old November 29th, 2011, 02:59 AM   #9231
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View from SWFC

This one taken 3 weeks ago from the SWFC observatory entrance
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Old November 29th, 2011, 05:38 PM   #9232
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He is growing quick, fortunately. @yepert your post is misleading because I read "from the SWFC observatory" . That's a low observation deck. But it is the entrance.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 02:14 PM   #9233
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Nice update photos
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Old November 30th, 2011, 03:59 PM   #9234
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Isn't that going to be the tallest tower in Asia?
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Old November 30th, 2011, 04:16 PM   #9235
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Isn't that going to be the tallest tower in Asia?
No, the tallest of Asia is of course the Burj Khalifa. This will be though the tallest of Eastern Asia, but Ping'an in Shenzhen is going to overtake it within a year after this one is finished.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 04:18 PM   #9236
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No, the tallest of Asia is of course the Burj Khalifa. This will be though the tallest of Eastern Asia, but Ping'an in Shenzhen is going to overtake it within a year after this one is finished.
Yes, you are right. My bad with geography. What is going to be the floor number for the proposed Ping'an building?
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Old November 30th, 2011, 04:24 PM   #9237
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What tower is that being build next to it, as seen in the 2nd picture?
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Old November 30th, 2011, 04:26 PM   #9238
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Yes, you are right. My bad with geography. What is going to be the floor number for the proposed Ping'an building?
Ping'an IFC is not just proposed, it's already under construction.
115 floors
Here is the thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...17647&page=117


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What tower is that being build next to it, as seen in the 2nd picture?
Oriental Financial Center: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1386416
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Old November 30th, 2011, 04:52 PM   #9239
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I think, it skyscraper has special form.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 05:47 PM   #9240
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So I made a bet with you guys about two months ago that if we made it to the third belt by the end of December, I would eat one of my socks.

I'm getting a little scared now...
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