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Old March 6th, 2008, 06:54 AM   #921
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omg from ssc.cn

"whats the use of having only a bottle openers (swfc)...of course we need a bottle..spin
spin spin spin spin spin"

this one looks 670?

yes look great 670m!! i want vote it!!
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Old March 6th, 2008, 03:08 PM   #922
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Agree, it is much more than 670m, definitely around 800m... Too tall...
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Old March 6th, 2008, 03:08 PM   #923
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looks indeed much taller than 700m
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Old March 6th, 2008, 04:48 PM   #924
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If you look at the perspective, and consider the facts that the SC is quite a lot closer to the point of view than both the Jin Mao and the SWFC, and of course that the main tower in a rendering often looks exaggerated in size, that tower could very well be 670 meters in height.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 05:53 PM   #925
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have anymore 1000m??
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Old March 6th, 2008, 05:56 PM   #926
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Looks like Gensler's project to me. Hope they'll pick it.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 06:23 PM   #927
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670m is too much to fit well with Jin Mao and SWFC... I hope they will go with the 580m version.
"too much" meaning "too tall?" There's no such thing as too much or too tall on this forum. I hope they go with a 670m or higher version. The higher the better. If you're looking for a balance in the skyline they can always build more skyscrapers to fill the skyline in.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 08:50 PM   #928
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"too much" meaning "too tall?" There's no such thing as too much or too tall on this forum. I hope they go with a 670m or higher version. The higher the better. If you're looking for a balance in the skyline they can always build more skyscrapers to fill the skyline in.
I would disagree, I feel like that kind of thinking can often lead to really tacky, disproportionate skylines. 580m is perfect. Tall enough but also allows SWFC and Jin Mao to be appreciated. I mean what would you rather have? A tacky skyline disheveled skyline with a really tall building or a beautiful, proportionate, majestic skyline with a shorter building?
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Old March 6th, 2008, 09:22 PM   #929
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"too much" meaning "too tall?" There's no such thing as too much or too tall on this forum. I hope they go with a 670m or higher version. The higher the better. If you're looking for a balance in the skyline they can always build more skyscrapers to fill the skyline in.
i have still the opinion that the 580m of SOM are perfect but 670m are definitely not too tall....skyscrapers can never be too tall
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Old March 6th, 2008, 09:32 PM   #930
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I would disagree, I feel like that kind of thinking can often lead to really tacky, disproportionate skylines. 580m is perfect. Tall enough but also allows SWFC and Jin Mao to be appreciated. I mean what would you rather have? A tacky skyline disheveled skyline with a really tall building or a beautiful, proportionate, majestic skyline with a shorter building?
One example being the Swiss Re building or the Gherkin in London. I believe Foster (can't remember wether it was him or someone else) came up with the original proposal to build a 386m supertall by the name of the Millennium Tower but it was shelved due to fears that planes might fly into it. It also looked out of place and dwarfed the surrounding towers. That was replaced in the form of the more eye pleasing and sensible Gherkin and has definitely worked out better in my opinion and I believe the same of the Shanghai Center.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 01:41 AM   #931
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670m is too much for some harmony in the skyline, 580m is just good. That is my opinion, don't tell me there can't be a term like ,,too tall"... Yes there is such a term, I don't want buildings to be extremely tall so I can enjoy the numbers, I want them to look good.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 10:02 AM   #932
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one of the two final chosen design is confirmed to be gensler's

133F, 680m in total, concrete up to 580m......it says they might make for the parts above 580m
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Old March 7th, 2008, 12:42 PM   #933
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If they build a 680m tall skyscraper, they have to build a 580m tower, too. It`s just my opinion of making the most impressive cluster in the world.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 12:46 PM   #934
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one of the two final chosen design is confirmed to be gensler's

133F, 680m in total, concrete up to 580m......it says they might make for the parts above 580m
Who is the other? The sword?
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Old March 7th, 2008, 02:43 PM   #935
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anyone have the renders for the gensler i forgot which one it was
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Old March 7th, 2008, 02:57 PM   #936
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anyone have the renders for the gensler i forgot which one it was
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Old March 7th, 2008, 03:42 PM   #937
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Not totally sure about the others Zorg, but the 2nd pic you posted is not Gensler's project, it's KPF's (also excellent).
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133F, 680m in total, concrete up to 580m......it says they might make for the parts above 580m
Ha! Would be great. Are these just rumors or is there any source?
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Old March 7th, 2008, 03:53 PM   #938
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Not totally sure about the others Zorg, but the 2nd pic you posted is not Gensler's project, it's KPF's (also excellent).Ha! Would be great. Are these just rumors or is there any source?
I'm not sure. That render looks like a mix of KPF and Gensler's proposals, lol.

This is the one by KPF

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Old March 7th, 2008, 05:38 PM   #939
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The first image of post # 890 is the Gensler Proposal. It's interesting that it's not in their official website (www.gensler.com).
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Old March 7th, 2008, 06:03 PM   #940
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This migth be the 680m one actually. Its "body" around 600m and another 80m for spire
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