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Old January 2nd, 2012, 10:29 PM   #9601
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nicely grown from back then
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 10:41 PM   #9602
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Going up very quickly looking at those pics.
How high will it be this time next year anyone know.
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 11:11 PM   #9603
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My tipe is 1.1.2013 - 460 - 470 m
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 11:39 PM   #9604
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My bet, they will top out in a year.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 12:08 AM   #9605
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My bet, they will top out in a year.
I think that's impossible. Need to build 400+ m more. I think it will be 420 m in a year.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 12:11 AM   #9606
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it'll slow down now due to the mech floor
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 12:46 AM   #9607
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I think that's impossible. Need to build 400+ m more. I think it will be 420 m in a year.


If they can manage a floor per 5 day it may happen and the hard part is over, it will become easier and easier...

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Old January 3rd, 2012, 12:56 AM   #9608
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What?? Why?
Lunar New Year.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 06:21 AM   #9609
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Hi all.

Hi Gouken.
Thanks for posting progress drawings by zip.
They give a good visual on where the project is at, using the drawing from Genslers PDF.

Hi Nord.
Great comparison man.
You got the levels lined up perfectly.



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Old January 3rd, 2012, 07:52 AM   #9610
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What is a belt truss ?
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 10:00 AM   #9611
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What is a belt truss ?
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 02:55 PM   #9612
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The belt trusses have a wider diameter than the normal floors. This creates ST's slightly undulating shape, and helps separate the two layers of cladding. In addition, the tower's indoor parks will be located around the edge of each belt truss. These can thus also function as observation decks.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 06:35 PM   #9613
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So, approximately how long will it take to complete this third belt truss? Also, will/can they begin construction of higher level floors before work on the belt truss is finished? Thanks
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 06:48 PM   #9614
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Obviously they have to finish circular part of the belt truss to go higher, but as you can see they don't wait until its exterior part is completed. See the second belt truss? Its still not completed. They need about 1 month to complete necessary circular part of the belt truss until they can go to the next levels.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 07:21 PM   #9615
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I see that as the building increases in height that the concrete core is taking up more and more space because the columns are leaning inwards and everything gets narrower except for the core. I had asked about this earlier and I've assumed that the core would also get smaller because each of the elevators will serve only certain floors and won't go to the top of the building. So what I'm asking is whether the elevator shafts will simply stop once they've reached the height of the last floor that they service which in turn would allow for more office space by reducing the size of the core. The confusing part of such a scenario is that the core would no longer be a perfect square if the shafts ended one at a time and were separated by a number of floors. I hope my question makes sense. Can someone explain this to me. Thanks!
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 07:30 PM   #9616
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The whole elevator shaft extends one or probably two stories above its highest served floor, this space is occupied by each car's equipment. The core get's indeed smaller, taking an octagonal shape at the middle and then a cross like at the top. The passenger elevator banks that serve the upper floors are located near the middle of the core, as well as the service cars and emergency stairwells.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 08:13 PM   #9617
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What is a belt truss ?
On simple terms it's a mech floor
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 08:43 PM   #9618
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Well, I've perused a fair bit of the thread and waited until the design was all but confirmed before chiming in. Thus far my best emotional response to this design is... meh?

I'm not normally into the organic-themed structures, which seem such a gimmick to me for a man-made structure trying to dominate a landscape. But I'm accepting the verve to be different, unique, and experiment with new forms and spaces. To that end I wonder if this design doesn't push the envelope enough regarding such forms, as to me it feels half-hearted with these undulations. Perhaps if there was a stronger base and crown reinforcing the twisting and warping of the forms, or exterior elements that accentuated the movement of the structure, I would be more enthralled. Instead I'm looking at it and simply asking "Why?"

It's not bad, but as a hearty critic of the Burj Khalifa I find that design much more engaging than this stray tentacle. Maybe there will be more revealed as the base and interior common areas are revealed. Maybe the interior gardens and open spaces will prove more appealing and impressive once fully realized. For now the simple form isn't enough to move me (ironically).

As an engineering feet it's fairly impressive, and in that degree arguably more impressive than the BK. The tonality and material of the exterior seems a good play against the other skyscrapers in the district, and it's overall massing will play well in the skyline. Again, there I wish the crown had more play to it, but it appears the designers are going for mass for mass' sake.

Not among my favorite of the supertalls, but definitely original and (presumably) more than meeting the bill for the clients' uses. Good luck with the progress, and I look forward to seeing it completed.

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Old January 3rd, 2012, 09:25 PM   #9619
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Should we expect a reduction in the core size soon?
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 09:54 PM   #9620
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Should we expect a reduction in the core size soon?
After every trustbelt the general floor size shrinks a bit, so i could imagine the core shrinking at the same time. the question only is at which trust belt it will
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