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Old January 5th, 2012, 08:38 AM   #9641
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Old January 5th, 2012, 03:48 PM   #9642
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Thanks for the reply Ray I really like the glass facade on the Bow, so this bodes well for ST!
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Old January 5th, 2012, 06:19 PM   #9643
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It's pretty awesome to seen from this angel. More better if Shanghai Tower has finish....
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Old January 6th, 2012, 05:17 AM   #9644
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Old January 6th, 2012, 07:37 AM   #9645
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The steel structure will rise to 632m wrapped around a 565.6 metre tall central concrete core. In total it will have 127 stories, a gross internal area of 558,806 square metres with interior space will be given over to offices, a luxury hotel and retail.

over 60 footballfields of floorspace sounds a lot to me
Anyone has any idea if floorspace estimates usually include cross-sectional area of walls, columns and elevators,...? Or is it just empty, usable space?
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Old January 6th, 2012, 10:36 AM   #9646
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usable space only i believe.
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Old January 6th, 2012, 04:27 PM   #9647
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Floor space in office buildings is the space that the tenants can organize freely I think.
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Old January 6th, 2012, 10:09 PM   #9648
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This is a very great tower, it will be very iconic in the future.
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Old January 6th, 2012, 10:15 PM   #9649
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does anyone have a render of what this will look like from ground level looking up with jm and swfc in the background?
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Old January 7th, 2012, 04:03 AM   #9650
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There is a possibility that it might be just over a 100 floor and within 3 months to topping out this time next year!
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Old January 7th, 2012, 05:00 AM   #9651
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I agree, maybe about 500 m height
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Old January 7th, 2012, 06:44 AM   #9652
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Old January 8th, 2012, 07:47 AM   #9653
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Shangai is so over the top, it puts ny to shame. It's like a mini coruscant.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 08:23 AM   #9654
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Please.

I'm not the guy that continues a city vs city post, but that's just idiotic. Shanghai will never have anything close to the density and amount of skyscrapers/highrises NY has. Have three supertall projects next to each other does not put NY to shame, which will soon have it's own three supertalls (and one almost supertall) right next to each other at the WTC, and the West side of Manhattan alone could rival all of Pudong in about 15 years.

I love Shanghai and I love Shanghai Tower, but please think before you say stupid things.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 11:39 AM   #9655
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Old January 8th, 2012, 02:59 PM   #9656
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Please.

I'm not the guy that continues a city vs city post, but that's just idiotic. Shanghai will never have anything close to the density and amount of skyscrapers/highrises NY has. Have three supertall projects next to each other does not put NY to shame, which will soon have it's own three supertalls (and one almost supertall) right next to each other at the WTC, and the West side of Manhattan alone could rival all of Pudong in about 15 years.

I love Shanghai and I love Shanghai Tower, but please think before you say stupid things.
Why is "density" put as some kind of advantage? All it shows is the inadequacy of planning which results in cramped urbanization and problems with traffic and public transport. Shanghai (or most other large Chinese cities for that matter) have much beter planning and development vision. They could stick many more buildings in Pudong and make "dense". But they won't because that's not a good idea. It may have been a standard back in the 30's but today it's not as isn't riding the horse carts on the streets. It may look nice, heart-warming to some but it's a thing of the past and by no means something to put as an advantage when talking of the modern days.

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Old January 8th, 2012, 03:06 PM   #9657
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I don't think Shanghai have much better planning than NYC but this thread is not about that, so please stay on topic.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 03:53 PM   #9658
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How long is the holiday for the workers now when the springs festival kicks in?
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Old January 8th, 2012, 04:04 PM   #9659
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Why is "density" put as some kind of advantage? All it shows is the inadequacy of planning which results in cramped urbanization and problems with traffic and public transport. Shanghai (or most other large Chinese cities for that matter) have much beter planning and development vision. They could stick many more buildings in Pudong and make "dense". But they won't because that's not a good idea. It may have been a standard back in the 30's but today it's not as isn't riding the horse carts on the streets. It may look nice, heart-warming to some but it's a thing of the past and by no means something to put as an advantage when talking of the modern days.
Its the same idea as the media with people's body images. It has to be skinny to look good. So in skyline terms, it has to be dense to look good.

I think capital gains and highly valued land will force this Pudong area to expand inwards. Jin Mao is expanding, and they plan to put more restaurants and shops along the river as well. They really need more commercial/retail space in between the area. This is true. But it has nothing to do with density.

In Perth, we have a financial street full of buildings built one next to another. The result of that is many entrances one after another. its soulless, because it has no retail/restaurants, hence to a non working person, its a bland place.

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How long is the holiday for the workers now when the springs festival kicks in?
I think two weeks or one week at least. But because, like Christmas in the West, the holiday period varies, so some companies/ construction starts before others while others have longer holidays etc.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 05:32 PM   #9660
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