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Old April 19th, 2008, 02:39 PM   #981
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That's a spectacular design.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 03:01 PM   #982
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Meh, it's a good second tier type mega tall.

Would have been mega impressive pre-Dubai, but post Dubai, well it's not about to compete with the Al Burj or even the Burj Dubai.

To that extent this is a generic mega tall in my books, much like the SWFC, tall but not tall enough to be famous to the layperson.

Design is good of course, but not iconic, doesn't resolve very well up top.
Let's put it this way, Shanghai will have the top skyline in the world for a city, whereas Dubai will have the top skyline for an oil executive theme park. I know someone may feel slightly offended by this definition, but actually they belong in different categories.
But then, of course height is not the only defining character of great buildings, so I'm convinced Shanghai will be able to compete with Dubai's skyline, even if Dubai builds one or two more monsters. One has also to keep in mind that Dubai's booming phase may end in some years' time, but Shanghai's hardly will.
Back to topic: Gensler design is great, yet will be a chore to build - Very intricate structure for a megatall. Being very picky, I don't like the way they redesigned the top part. Oh well.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 03:01 PM   #983
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Yes looks amazing.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 03:38 PM   #984
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when this would be really the winner i'm very happy with the design, looks awesome!


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^It looks like, about 700m at least?
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i'd say 650m

agree with helgast, doesn't look like 700m +.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 04:29 PM   #985
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It looks like around 600m. That's a good height for its location really! the design looks ok. I don't dislike it but I don't love it either. Maybe I'll grow fond of it as it's being built.

Kudos Peloso for his opinion:
''Dubai will have the top skyline for an oil executive theme park''
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Old April 19th, 2008, 04:47 PM   #986
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Great design
I have a feeling that this will be SkyHusband's next stop after SWFC.

Either way, SOM, Gensler and other many other designs will be terrific for the Shanghai Skyline. Just build them all!!!!

. . . IMO
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Old April 19th, 2008, 05:26 PM   #987
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Kudos Peloso for his opinion:
''Dubai will have the top skyline for an oil executive theme park''
Err... thank you.
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Either way, SOM, Gensler and other many other designs will be terrific for the Shanghai Skyline. Just build them all!!!!
'Zactly, build Gensler, then SOM and the "sword" as well, Shanghai can do it.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 07:53 PM   #988
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Meh, it's a good second tier type mega tall.

Would have been mega impressive pre-Dubai, but post Dubai, well it's not about to compete with the Al Burj or even the Burj Dubai.

To that extent this is a generic mega tall in my books, much like the SWFC, tall but not tall enough to be famous to the layperson.

Design is good of course, but not iconic, doesn't resolve very well up top.
Seriously? Looks better than the Burj Dubai IMO, and I like the Burj. But apparently in this day and age aesthetics don't count for squat.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 08:55 PM   #989
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i did some scaling. i hope they are not wrong.

The tower is supposed to be ~650 meters in the picture below:



There are "inner gardens or public areas, etc." which are 2 stories. The parts between them -the main floors- are 14 stories. I guess the base is 5 stories and 5 more on the top.



There are 8 main floor parts (red lines) and 9 mezzanines (yellow lines)



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According to these renders (if this is the chosen design) I say that this tower will be ~650 meters and ~140 stories [(8x14)+(9x2)+5+5=140]
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Old April 19th, 2008, 11:05 PM   #990
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Hmm... thanks Densetsu for the good work. If I may, I partially disagree on your evaluation of the height. To me it looks like in the first pic/diagram you took the base mark a tad too high for the new tower. That's why I believe it'll be more, like, 620-630 meters (perfect for harmony, if you ask me).
But hey, are we discussing on solid grounds? I mean, is there any kinda official confirmation that this is indeed the chosen project?
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Old April 20th, 2008, 01:07 AM   #991
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it is just a render, the final height might not be the same as the render. It looks to be around 650m, but not higher.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 01:13 AM   #992
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650m would be a great height
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Old April 20th, 2008, 02:36 AM   #993
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I haven't even seen this yet where did it come from?
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Old April 20th, 2008, 02:43 AM   #994
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If this is the final design its great! Can easilly pick something worse, but this looks good!
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Old April 20th, 2008, 02:59 AM   #995
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i want 3 300+ around jinmao, swfc and shanghai center!
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Old April 20th, 2008, 03:18 AM   #996
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someone in skyscrapers.cn said:

Jinmao and SWFC makes the two straight lines of the letter "H"

and the shanghai center (gensler's design) which looks like a snake in some certain angle looks like the letter "S"

together making the abbreviation of shanghai SH lol!
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Old April 20th, 2008, 06:56 AM   #997
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650m would be a great height
ZZ if they build this to 650m I'll pay your admission to the observatory. Just so long of course they have an observatory.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 07:12 AM   #998
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Nice new design.... if 666m....good six six six
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Old April 20th, 2008, 08:08 AM   #999
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Old April 20th, 2008, 11:57 AM   #1000
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They should go for Chinese Lucky Number 888
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