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Old April 12th, 2012, 10:28 AM   #10521
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Old April 12th, 2012, 03:22 PM   #10522
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Old April 12th, 2012, 04:24 PM   #10523
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What the heck we're not even halfway and the floor area has became smaller than the core, I wonder if this is an economically viable building after all, hmm, though on the other hand, its beauty and prestige will surely make up for that...
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Old April 12th, 2012, 04:43 PM   #10524
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Wow...wonderful building...are they in time for 2014?
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Old April 12th, 2012, 05:00 PM   #10525
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What the heck we're not even halfway and the floor area has became smaller than the core, I wonder if this is an economically viable building after all, hmm, though on the other hand, its beauty and prestige will surely make up for that...
The core is supposed to shrink as the tower goes up to compensate for the narrowing. Also, maybe this is just me being ignorant, but can't you use the space inside the core, even if it's just for elevator shafts?
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Old April 12th, 2012, 05:41 PM   #10526
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Great progress over the last 12 months. I wonder if it'll be taller than SWFC in another year?
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Old April 12th, 2012, 06:15 PM   #10527
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Wow...wonderful building...are they in time for 2014?
i think yes. they're almost half way up, should be possible
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Old April 12th, 2012, 06:36 PM   #10528
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What the heck we're not even halfway and the floor area has became smaller than the core, I wonder if this is an economically viable building after all, hmm, though on the other hand, its beauty and prestige will surely make up for that...
The core gets smaller as the tower rises... fewer floors above means fewer elevators. Also, not all of the core is used for elevators and stairs. Most buildings include kitchens, bathrooms, and other utility rooms in the core.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 07:36 PM   #10529
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The core gets smaller as the tower rises... fewer floors above means fewer elevators.
...and yet, lo and behold, the floor space looks remarkably small. I mean relative to the core.
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Also, not all of the core is used for elevators and stairs. Most buildings include kitchens, bathrooms, and other utility rooms in the core.
Well I guess this does not improve the economic qualities of the tower, I mean that does not count as leasable space, or does it?
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Old April 12th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #10530
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The floor space would never smaller than the core. (The number floats but it is always 2-5 times larger)



Which area is larger? Red or Green?



Actually, they are the same.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 09:08 PM   #10531
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Ahem, how many floors does ST have now?
By the floorplate area diagram shown by Nordschleife, The core forms are right above the 52th floor, I would say they're currently getting on with the 55th floor.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 09:20 PM   #10532
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Great floorplans. Any with higher resolution?
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Old April 12th, 2012, 10:08 PM   #10533
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The floor space would never smaller than the core.
I never said the floor space would be "smaller than the core". I said it looks "remarkably small" relative to the core.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 11:35 PM   #10534
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I never said the floor space would be "smaller than the core". I said it looks "remarkably small" relative to the core.
Hmmm...

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What the heck we're not even halfway and the floor area has became smaller than the core, I wonder if this is an economically viable building after all, hmm, though on the other hand, its beauty and prestige will surely make up for that...
In fact, you used that exact phrase.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 12:05 AM   #10535
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Hmmm...


In fact, you used that exact phrase.
As you can see in the pic from Nordschleife, it is difficult to see the difference.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 01:18 AM   #10536
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It looks that way because the top section hasn't got concrete around its truss yet unlike the rest of the tower. Wait until that is done, then it will look bigger. Remember Kinkey100 and its massive core plus frame?
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Old April 13th, 2012, 07:22 AM   #10537
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As you can see in the pic from Nordschleife, it is difficult to see the difference.
Exactly, it looked like that from that pic, I didn't check to see if it is so and I did'n mean it literally. But anyway what I meant is, this building does not just pursuit an immediate economical interest in terms of leasing floor space, but also image goals for the whole city of Shanghai, so there's a big added value in it.
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Old April 13th, 2012, 07:24 AM   #10538
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Old April 13th, 2012, 01:13 PM   #10539
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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #10540
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That pic reminds me of the cover of a Steely Dan album. Roaring skyscrapers.
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