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Old April 26th, 2008, 12:32 PM   #1101
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In places like this, designs don't always have to fit with the current buildings. Some differentiation isn't a bad thing. A good contrast would be nice. But again, I think both are great, Shanghai is lucky it has such a choice.
In places like this everything shout fit well. It's not a long long skyline like Hong Kong or New York. It's a cluster skyline.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 12:49 PM   #1102
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Shanghai centre's final design's yet to be decided, but skyscraperpage already show twisting one in the diagram of construction & proposed.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 01:14 PM   #1103
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In places like this everything shout fit well. It's not a long long skyline like Hong Kong or New York. It's a cluster skyline.
Are you talking about Lujiazui alone? Because Shanghai's total skyline is several times larger and wider than NYC's and Hong Kong's combined.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 01:14 PM   #1104
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And Damn!!! just when I though Incheon tower would be the tallest skyscraper in Asia, another one pops up in CHINA.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 01:19 PM   #1105
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Are you talking about Lujiazui alone? Because Shanghai's total skyline is several times larger and wider than NYC's and Hong Kong's combined.
Shanghai or Moscow as cities are not really skyline-cities, like New York or Hong Kong. Those are just big cities. I'm talking about Lujiazui of course.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 02:17 PM   #1106
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Old April 26th, 2008, 08:27 PM   #1107
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to a degree, Moscow does fit into the same urban style as Shanghai, albeit shorter. Hongkong, actually also fits into the group, although people may despute Hongkong because the city's aggregrate square feet is so small.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 09:05 PM   #1108
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it wuld be nice to see some area uppdate end wat`s going on there !
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Old April 26th, 2008, 11:14 PM   #1109
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to a degree, Moscow does fit into the same urban style as Shanghai, albeit shorter. Hongkong, actually also fits into the group, although people may despute Hongkong because the city's aggregrate square feet is so small.
...also I read somewhere that Moscow and Shanghai, in this order, are currently the world's two cities with the highest average value per square meter in the world.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 01:05 AM   #1110
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it wuld be nice to see some area uppdate end wat`s going on there !
construction will probably start anytime this year and until this moment not much will happen on the site
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Old April 27th, 2008, 01:37 AM   #1111
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construction will probably start anytime this year and until this moment not much will happen on the site
ok thanks for the hads up ! i rely hope the foundation work gets faster then the spire in chichago
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Old April 27th, 2008, 07:57 AM   #1112
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ok thanks for the hads up ! i rely hope the foundation work gets faster then the spire in chichago
Vanhenrik a guy with one leg can run the marathon faster than the Chicago Spire can make it out of the hole. I have no problem in believing this building will get going faster than the CS.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 07:59 AM   #1113
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I really dislike that "dragon" design, it looks like a huge - pardon my French - *****.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 03:00 PM   #1114
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Are you talking about Lujiazui alone? Because Shanghai's total skyline is several times larger and wider than NYC's and Hong Kong's combined.
I don't know that I agree with that. It's true that Shanghai has several small skylines spread over a large area wheras Hong Kong and New York have larger central clusters (New York has two central clusters: Downtown and Midtown) but then both HK and NY have smaller satellite clusters as well. New Jersey and Brooklyn both have skyscraper clusters and some of Hong Kong's recent 300m towers are built very far from Central or even Kowloon. The Nina Tower (319m) is way back in Tsuen Wan in the New Territories and is miles away from One Island East (308m) which lies far away on the other side of the city in Quarry Bay.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:13 PM   #1115
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diagram update

Hi her`s an diagram update ! this is simpley amazing !
it looks rely amazing





aperentley it is going to be 650 m tall !
Tats even taller then burj dubai is now !

i can onley say wow !
rely hope they shuld buld this one !
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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:28 PM   #1116
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vanhenrik, i think you didn't read anything in the thread ....ther were official news which said that the Shanghai Center will be 580m tall and not 650 or anything else
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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:33 PM   #1117
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vanhenrik, i think you didn't read anything in the thread ....ther were official news which said that the Shanghai Center will be 580m tall and not 650 or anything else
but acording to http://skyscraperpage.com diagram it is going to be 650
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Old April 27th, 2008, 07:28 PM   #1118
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but acording to http://skyscraperpage.com diagram it is going to be 650
A drawing of ssp is irrelevant, they could make it 6500m if they wanted

On the other hand, rumour claims according to a worker of the project that 580m is the concrete height, meaning that the overall structure could be higher. They posted this at ss.cn. Others say that 580m is the roof height, not total height, or perhaps the height of the obvervation deck. I personally don't believe anything of this
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Old April 27th, 2008, 07:36 PM   #1119
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at least we can say: never trust a simple diagram
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Old April 27th, 2008, 08:19 PM   #1120
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but the diagram sas that it is the roof hight not the (spire) hight so i rely hope it will be 650 m tall it wuld look rely nice if it gets to that hight !
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