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Old April 29th, 2008, 02:05 AM   #1141
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I thought it should be able to. Don't they build skyscrapers by digging down to bedrock, drive piles deep into the bedrock and start building up from there?



Maybe Shanghai will pull something out it's hat and make it 900m tall to beat Burj Dubai. Wishful thinking.
its not going to happen, so its wasteful thinking
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Old April 29th, 2008, 07:58 AM   #1142
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there you see how much people never heard from the Burj Dubai
its just that they consider China as the world
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Old April 29th, 2008, 08:01 AM   #1143
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I thought it should be able to. Don't they build skyscrapers by digging down to bedrock, drive piles deep into the bedrock and start building up from there?



Maybe Shanghai will pull something out it's hat and make it 900m tall to beat Burj Dubai. Wishful thinking.
Shanghai doesnt have bedrock...its constructed on mud
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Old April 29th, 2008, 04:48 PM   #1144
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would anyone of you guys please tell me, which is the actual or final design for the Shanghai Center?
There is no final design yet but these to below are the finalists. One of them will be chosen soon (dunno when).

Have a look at the first page before asking these kind of questions.

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Old April 29th, 2008, 05:36 PM   #1145
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Old April 29th, 2008, 05:52 PM   #1146
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me too, twisting one looks much taller
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Old April 29th, 2008, 06:08 PM   #1147
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Shanghai is built on a swamp... the city is constantly sinking under the weight of the buildings. Also when they dig down they don't dig very deep because a lot of the city is at or below sea level, which is a problem during summer when it floods a lot.

The ground is extremely soft here so when building they usually dig a thin hole around the perimeter then put a huge wall down into it, then build a big frame and dig underneath the frame. They have to build new frames as they go down to stop the hole caving in. Then when they start laying the floor slabs they demolish the frame as they build up.
So it looks like these buildings should be fine. It looks like engineers have taken the steps to ensure that these buildings can stand for a long time.


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Shanghai doesnt have bedrock...its constructed on mud

I thought every place had bedrock at some level. Maybe for Shanghai it's thousands of feet down which could make sense since the Yangtze river has been depositing soft soil for thousands or either millions of years.

...and that ends my off-topic post.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 06:24 PM   #1148
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There is no final design yet but these to below are the finalists. One of them will be chosen soon (dunno when).

Have a look at the first page before asking these kind of questions.


Wow I like em both. I must say that both proposals look stunning, however Foster's one looks really like a shiny giant asparagus
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Old April 29th, 2008, 07:00 PM   #1149
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There is no final design yet but these to below are the finalists. One of them will be chosen soon (dunno when).

Have a look at the first page before asking these kind of questions.

Thank you Densetsu.

I had a look at the first page before. But for me it was difficult to keep the overall view.

Hm, that one on the right side reminds me of Foster's Millenium Tower, which once was desinged for the Tokyo Bay.
But the left one is my favourite.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 03:36 AM   #1150
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The twisting one is great. Its great height diminishes all the other buildings in Luijiazui, and I don't think that is the best way to build a skyline, but individually it's a nice design. The Foster tower is horrible. I generally like Foster's buildings but this one is way below his usual standard. I don't like the similar one he designed for Moscow either.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 03:49 AM   #1151
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The twisting one is great. Its great height diminishes all the other buildings in Luijiazui, and I don't think that is the best way to build a skyline, but individually it's a nice design. The Foster tower is horrible. I generally like Foster's buildings but this one is way below his usual standard. I don't like the similar one he designed for Moscow either.
Yeah I agree. The twisting one is fantastic. Maybe Foster was drunk when he designed the right one.
This isn't a complete new design from Foster. The Shape is from the old Millennium Tower. Just the facade and the structural engineering was changed.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 03:55 AM   #1152
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i hate golden colour buildings.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 04:03 AM   #1153
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And I hate Gold at all!
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Old April 30th, 2008, 01:16 PM   #1154
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The twisted tower would be my choice too. The other one would fit better in Disneyworld.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 03:09 PM   #1155
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Yeah I agree. The twisting one is fantastic. Maybe Foster was drunk when he designed the right one. This isn't a complete new design from Foster. The Shape is from the old Millennium Tower. Just the facade and the structural engineering was changed.
The Millennium Tower? You mean the Millennium Tower he designed for London? It was quite different actually. Images from skyscrapernews.com

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Old April 30th, 2008, 03:27 PM   #1156
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No, I believe he meant the Millennium Tower in Tokyo designed by Foster. At first I thought he meant that too.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 04:19 PM   #1157
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The Millennium Tower? You mean the Millennium Tower he designed for London? It was quite different actually. Images from skyscrapernews.com

Langur,

this wasn't the once and only project by Foster which was named Millennium Tower. Myster E is right. I meant the Project which was designed for the Tokyo Bay.

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http://www.fosterandpartners.com/Pro...4/Default.aspx

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=361796
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Old May 1st, 2008, 01:44 AM   #1158
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^ Ok thanks....
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Old May 1st, 2008, 01:54 AM   #1159
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 11:11 AM   #1160
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Which one winner?? but long time... I can't wait...
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