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Old September 11th, 2012, 12:44 AM   #12021
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ohhhh SHANGAI .. loock very desorganitation city
NOO REALLY THIS IS THE BEST CITY THE WORLD!!!
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Old September 11th, 2012, 01:12 AM   #12022
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ive amended diagram.hope ok

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Old September 11th, 2012, 04:11 AM   #12023
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I havent been to Shanghai but judging from those photos it looks like it has a very unorganized layout. It also it not too densly built like New york.
I think we too often associate density as being pleasurable (visually) without realizing it's contextual: we find it desirable but others typically don't. Especially people who live in a country with 1.2 billion people (or a city with about 15 million individuals). I've found that the Chinese - like Americans - are actually a bit covetous of their personal space, which is why a lot of the city planners there have really take to the "Garden City" school, I believe.

But really, what we call "density" is primarily a byproduct of location. Both NY and HK are psychically constrained for example, but a lot of other cities (typically) have constrained themselves in that way due to logistical reasons (you can fit more people in a smaller area, which could be better defended for one thing). This is one reason why you'll observe that a typical European city is much denser than your average American one (the former having been firmly established prior to the automobile).

Anyways, with that said...I think the real point of "density" isn't about how close the buildings are per say, but about zoning. To be honest, the thing that makes "Suburbia" here in the US so horrendous, is that you live in a sub-division, then have to get in a car, and drive 3-4 miles down the road to go shopping. Only in older neighborhoods will you see a lot of mixed zoning. I think if we could figure that out, we could solve a LOT of transportation and Mass Transit concerns here...

In my opinion, THAT is what density is about: sure it's about the number of people in a given area (I know that) but overwhelmingly it's also about the activity in that given area as well. In some places, I do think there is a problem with density in Shanghai, and it is by and large the newer developments (take a walk around Suzhou creek for example).

Anyways, I long ago decided to make an exception for that area of Lujiazui, because it's really meant to be a "Trophy Shelf."


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CHRYSLER? my friend thi is the new architecture museum is the next room , its better that you come to SHANGhAI and see for yourself

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Your enthusiasm is fine...but I'd just like to suggest you try to write everything in one, as opposed to multiple successive, posts.

And I happen to like the Chrysler building, it's a classic :P
And, "museum?" You make it sound like we're dead...we're not there yet. At least cover the grave before you start dancing on it. lol
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Old September 11th, 2012, 01:10 PM   #12024
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Old September 11th, 2012, 06:28 PM   #12025
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So what crane do they actually use to lift the cladding in place? Do they actually reserve one of the four top cranes for that?
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Old September 11th, 2012, 07:58 PM   #12026
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im not really sure but i think there are a couple of small yellow cranes on each steel truss which lift them to place.
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Old September 11th, 2012, 08:37 PM   #12027
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yes, i think you're right charles54...the big cranes on top have better things to do
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Old September 11th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #12028
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Old September 12th, 2012, 12:47 AM   #12029
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The whole bottom section is going to be fully clad with glass in only a few weeks....amazing.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 05:14 AM   #12030
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My god shanghai tower is already at 350 meters, at this rate 1 wtc here in New York will be the 4th tallest building in the world when completed .
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Old September 12th, 2012, 07:15 AM   #12031
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Glass looks great !!!
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Old September 12th, 2012, 10:20 AM   #12032
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My god shanghai tower is already at 350 meters, at this rate 1 wtc here in New York will be the 4th tallest building in the world when completed .
1WTC got its spire cancelled and will only be the 14th tallest in the world upon completion
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Old September 12th, 2012, 01:41 PM   #12033
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im not really sure but i think there are a couple of small yellow cranes on each steel truss which lift them to place.
yes, I think you can them them in the picture of kanye.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 01:53 PM   #12034
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Old September 12th, 2012, 06:35 PM   #12035
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It's getting underway nicely. Cranes appear to be double-braced and may jump up to new level soon.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 06:45 PM   #12036
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limestone cladding

What type of stone do you use for cladding? we have limestone that would suite the job...if you need more inf please contact me....

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Old September 12th, 2012, 07:58 PM   #12037
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What type of stone do you use for cladding? we have limestone that would suite the job...if you need more inf please contact me....
What are you talking about ? this tower will get a complete glass facade
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Old September 12th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #12038
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What type of stone do you use for cladding? we have limestone that would suite the job...if you need more inf please contact me....
I dont think selling to skyscrapercity will help you. Also stone cladding.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 08:56 PM   #12039
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Stop the press! Shanghai Tower is having a complete redesign to transform the glass facade into limestone tiling. The whole thing! I heard they got a 2 for 1 deal from a shop in Itamaraju, Brazil.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #12040
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It's getting underway nicely. Cranes appear to be double-braced and may jump up to new level soon.
Can someone grab a photo of the cranes in during a jump? I want to see how they actually do it.

None of the photos I've seen here show them mid-jump.

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