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Old October 9th, 2012, 10:12 AM   #12321
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I've never participated in this thread but... Where did you red that? Empire State was the tallest building in the world until Willis tower in Chicago surpassed it, after that 19 towers to the date have surpassed the Emire state.
The WTC in New York surpassed the ESB before Sears Tower ( now Willis Tower ).
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Old October 9th, 2012, 11:06 AM   #12322
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When shall the outer cladding of the first atrium be completed all the way to all around the second truss belt?

Shanghai tower is now taller than the roof of Jin Mao tower. When shall Shanghai tower be taller than the spire of Jin Mao tower?
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Old October 9th, 2012, 11:36 AM   #12323
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I know we have discussed this before, but regarding that large plot infront of the Jin Mao...if it was to be re-landscaped as green space, then why would you need two large dormitory buildings? (red roofs)
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Old October 9th, 2012, 11:47 AM   #12324
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I know we have discussed this before, but regarding that large plot infront of the Jin Mao...if it was to be re-landscaped as green space, then why would you need two large dormitory buildings? (red roofs)

Some work going on there now. That part of Century Avenue has all sorts of hoardings up and work going on. Don't think its a major construction site.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 11:50 AM   #12325
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^ Could mean a small upcoming project is being considered! :O
Probably not much you could build there. Something similar to the low building to the right.. or maybe a shopping village or some tourist attraction.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 11:55 AM   #12326
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A giant ferris wheel would be nice.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 12:33 PM   #12327
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i think another building of a height between jin mao and SWFC would be perfect. but i am afraid it will not happen
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Old October 9th, 2012, 01:31 PM   #12328
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i think another building of a height between jin mao and SWFC would be perfect. but i am afraid it will not happen
That would be cool indeed. But as you said, it won't happen
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Old October 9th, 2012, 05:00 PM   #12329
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it would be so awesome if those green spaces were filled with high rises buildings/skyscrapers so lujiazui is more dense!
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Old October 9th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #12330
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I bet they will densify it after all the current plots are filled. Shanghai will have no other choice if it wants to keep growing its skyline.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 06:45 PM   #12331
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I bet they will densify it after all the current plots are filled. Shanghai will have no other choice if it wants to keep growing its skyline.
There is still plenty of room to expand the CBD eastwards.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 10:50 PM   #12332
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I bet they will densify it after all the current plots are filled. Shanghai will have no other choice if it wants to keep growing its skyline.

Lujiazui is a prototype of contemporary urban planning, which explains why things have been built that way. Just keep in mind that the area was swampland 20 years ago.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 11:42 PM   #12333
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This will be the most powerful cluster of skyscrapers,, ever, in the world,, probably 10 times greater than the twin towers,, save the tragedy that happend to them,, even if still standing,, these would be considered TOPS..
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Old October 9th, 2012, 11:54 PM   #12334
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I bet they will densify it after all the current plots are filled. Shanghai will have no other choice if it wants to keep growing its skyline.
cities don't build tall buildings for reasons so trivial as aesthetics. china has been building all of this in anticipation of the millions of people moving from rural areas to urban areas. it's not 'hey we want a really awesome skyline, better spend billions and billions of dollars on buildings we don't need so it will look cool.' cities become more dense because of the necessity for efficiency, not because they want to have the best skyline in the world, that is what architecture is for.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 11:57 PM   #12335
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Old October 10th, 2012, 12:13 AM   #12336
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cities don't build tall buildings for reasons so trivial as aesthetics. china has been building all of this in anticipation of the millions of people moving from rural areas to urban areas. it's not 'hey we want a really awesome skyline, better spend billions and billions of dollars on buildings we don't need so it will look cool.' cities become more dense because of the necessity for efficiency, not because they want to have the best skyline in the world, that is what architecture is for.
Even so,the new WTC would be a close rival for best grouping of supertalls.The overall height of the new complex is about 1,000' taller than that of the Shanghai triad.

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Old October 10th, 2012, 12:20 AM   #12337
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It is looking wonderful - shearing on up!!
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Old October 10th, 2012, 01:54 AM   #12338
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A giant ferris wheel would be nice.
LOL...Good one.....A ferris wheel with 500 m Diameter would fit right in. But might ruin the skyline.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 02:18 AM   #12339
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cities don't build tall buildings for reasons so trivial as aesthetics. china has been building all of this in anticipation of the millions of people moving from rural areas to urban areas. it's not 'hey we want a really awesome skyline, better spend billions and billions of dollars on buildings we don't need so it will look cool.' cities become more dense because of the necessity for efficiency, not because they want to have the best skyline in the world, that is what architecture is for.
completely agree with this. Mind that skyscrapers are developers trying to make as much money from a small site, and the aesthetics of a skyscraper are mainly to persuade potential tenants to rent a space or future residents to live there.

Also, Shanghai should keep pockets of green space, too much urban development is not good for any city as it would make for unpleasant street life.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 03:03 AM   #12340
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LOL...Good one.....A ferris wheel with 500 m Diameter would fit right in. But might ruin the skyline.
A ferris wheel would look horrible there!
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