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Old November 14th, 2012, 01:26 PM   #12761
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I don't think so. I think its permanent.
陆家嘴东扩planning,several years ago.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 03:06 PM   #12762
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I don't think so. I think its permanent.
Well if they do... and a new supertall is to be built there... why the hell not?!
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Old November 14th, 2012, 04:20 PM   #12763
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陆家嘴东扩planning,several years ago.
These buildings are recent. So why did they built? And I have not seen any project for this area. Do you have any source?

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Old November 16th, 2012, 12:43 AM   #12764
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These buildings are recent. So why did they built? And I have not seen any project for this area. Do you have any source?
In China, that building took about 18 months to put up and profits from initial investments were likely relized shortly after. If the building is torn down, it just means additional profits are assured !
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Old November 16th, 2012, 02:00 AM   #12765
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Yep.... And at the same time podium is deferred as someone told here some month ago. But In my personal view podium can't be realized now because of cranes range.
Rumors says these additional profits are related to disobeying one child policy ...
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Old November 16th, 2012, 03:37 AM   #12766
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Nice work, Comet, says ST will only cost 700 million to make,, appx 1/7 of what 1wtc????
Cheap material,and in America we have to worry a lot more than just the construction portion.Well,at least in comparison to 1WTC.

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Old November 16th, 2012, 03:53 AM   #12767
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Yeah and the labor is too expensive in the US as well... you will also notice that the constructions in Asian countries center more on concretes compare to Steels used in North America...
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Old November 16th, 2012, 04:14 AM   #12768
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2.4billion, actually.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 04:44 AM   #12769
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Nice work, Comet, says ST will only cost 700 million to make,, appx 1/7 of what 1wtc????
About U$2.2 billion.

ST:

Floor area 380,000 m2 (4,090,300 sq ft) above grade
170,000 m2 (1,829,900 sq ft) below grade[1]

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3,501,274 sq ft (325,279 m2)

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Old November 16th, 2012, 06:39 AM   #12770
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In China, that building took about 18 months to put up and profits from initial investments were likely relized shortly after. If the building is torn down, it just means additional profits are assured !
Likely not in the dead center of Shanghai... The land is too expensive to screw around with.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 07:14 AM   #12771
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Yeah and the labor is too expensive in the US as well... you will also notice that the constructions in Asian countries center more on concretes compare to Steels used in North America...
Someone needs to do a little research on modern structures, especially ones with this height.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 07:16 AM   #12772
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Cheap material,and in America we have to worry a lot more than just the construction portion.Well,at least in comparison to 1WTC.
It's the other way around in terms of cheap material.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 02:53 AM   #12773
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Yeah and the labor is too expensive in the US as well... you will also notice that the constructions in Asian countries center more on concretes compare to Steels used in North America...
Not to mention the Union as well. You can't stop workers to have coffee break for every other hours. With this tall building, it's going to take US forever to finish it.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 03:25 AM   #12774
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It's the other way around in terms of cheap material.
well obviously not if your comparing a building so much taller costs just over 2 billion and something 700 ft shorter costing 4 billion lol
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Old November 17th, 2012, 03:56 AM   #12775
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well obviously not if your comparing a building so much taller costs just over 2 billion and something 700 ft shorter costing 4 billion lol
Not necessarily...I guess the cheap migrant workers and the lower land costs make the real difference.
BTW land costs are much higher in Puxi ("old" part of SH) than in Pudong/Lujiazui CBD (where ST is located). So ST isn't even located in the most expensive part of Shanghai (that would be the area around People's Square).
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Old November 17th, 2012, 04:05 AM   #12776
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Not necessarily...I guess the cheap migrant workers and the lower land costs make the real difference.
BTW land costs are much higher in Puxi ("old" part of SH) than in Pudong/Lujiazui CBD (where ST is located). So ST isn't even located in the most expensive part of Shanghai (that would be the area around People's Square).
well you have to admit that 1wtc is quite more expensive then this bad boy being the fact that this is so much taller lol but yea i guess the parts of 1wtc aren't necessarily more expensive, does anyone know how much each of the facades etc cost on each of the towers for comparison?
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Old November 17th, 2012, 06:01 AM   #12777
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^ The base facade alone is $40 million.

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No way

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Old November 17th, 2012, 02:32 PM   #12778
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Someone needs to do a little research on modern structures, especially ones with this height.
I agree, someone really needs to do a little research...

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Old November 17th, 2012, 07:01 PM   #12779
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Well Emirates are technically in Asia, but they can hardly be named "an Asian country"... an "Arab country" maybe
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Old November 18th, 2012, 02:30 AM   #12780
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haven't seen any new photos in a week or so,, Lowai you on vacation? Lil Universe? The glass has to be starting above the 2nd truss by now,, I mean it's been a week they usualyy get 3-4 rows per week Unlike,, well I'd rather not say
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