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Old January 3rd, 2013, 06:12 AM   #13321
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That's nice. So you can walk from Lujiazui station to Jin Mao in the rain without getting wet.
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 04:25 PM   #13322
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They are building some underground commercial facility as well as one passage connects Jinmao, IFC and the subway station. after that those ground level will return to public green space.
THANK YOU! I knew I wasn't losing my mind...I'd seen this once over a year ago and could never find it again lol.
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 07:58 PM   #13323
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The core is over 417m right? Then it's higher.
When will it be taller than SWFC and 494m?
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 08:28 PM   #13324
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OMG! This tower is STUNNING and its not even close to being finished.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 01:09 AM   #13325
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Old January 4th, 2013, 04:52 AM   #13326
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superior shape n facade.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 05:11 AM   #13327
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Shanghai tower now taller than 1 WTC,, what the hell, The chinese seem to have their shit together,,, Why can't the USA.. Already taller and is only been rising a year.. I'm just so frustrated watching them 1WTC install 1 window per week, and that's progresss? QUITE BORING!!!!!!!
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Old January 4th, 2013, 05:53 AM   #13328
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Haha, not really. Height of the buildings in a country don't usually reflect how successful it is.
Most of the towers built in China and Dubai are built with dirt-cheap labour for the sake of having a tall building.
What you are saying is mostly wrong, especially for China.

Number of high rises in a city shows the higher value of the land and demand. Shanghai is the largest city in China. It is one of the largest cities in world by any measures. Demand for office space is very real and skyscrapers add prestige for the ones willing to pay the premium price. These skyscrapers are build by entrepreneurs and for profit. The day they don't profit, the will stop building
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Old January 4th, 2013, 06:24 AM   #13329
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What you are saying is mostly wrong, especially for China.

Number of high rises in a city shows the higher value of the land and demand. Shanghai is the largest city in China. It is one of the largest cities in world by any measures. Demand for office space is very real and skyscrapers add prestige for the ones willing to pay the premium price. These skyscrapers are build by entrepreneurs and for profit. The day they don't profit, the will stop building
Yeah and zOrg can't help it but create a thread for every single existing Chinese tower that popped into someones mind (which could be well over a "million" threads)
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Old January 4th, 2013, 07:24 AM   #13330
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Yeah and zOrg can't help it but create a thread for every single existing Chinese tower that popped into someones mind (which could be well over a "million" threads)
So what you're saying is, we should stop create threads for Chinese towers, because there are already too many of them???
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Old January 4th, 2013, 09:34 AM   #13331
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Core at 92th/93th fl - about 430/435m.
Floor trusses at 80th fl.
Next truss belt at fl 82-83.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 10:12 AM   #13332
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WoW! Steel on the top is around 95 fl or 447.5 m..
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Old January 4th, 2013, 11:16 AM   #13333
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I canīt wait to see SWFC below from ST, just like Jin Mao on the previous page. I hope you got the point.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 11:30 AM   #13334
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I have a feeling... the observation deck on ST is too high up, and looking down won't be as epic as the view from SWFC. Happy to be proved wrong with photos when this is completed!
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Old January 4th, 2013, 01:12 PM   #13335
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Are you trying to be funny or what?
I'm not a big fan of Walpole, but I am assuming he is referring to the correlation between purchasing power parity and democracy. The basic principle being; as china continues to grow economically and it's people continue to receive more freedoms as a result of increased economic prosperity, they have more access to the world/better education, ect.

At some point, the people demand representation and democracy, which could be a good or bad thing for China. It's a concept, not a fact. But it's been pretty consistent throughout history.

That said, this is a thread on the tower. Whatever happens to China, I hope for the best and would be delighted to talk about it in another thread. I love this super-tall!
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Old January 4th, 2013, 01:38 PM   #13336
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Yeah and zOrg can't help it but create a thread for every single existing Chinese tower that popped into someones mind (which could be well over a "million" threads)
what a nonsense. When information pops up about a chinese building zorg often does NOT open a thread until he has more information than a concept picture or more information about the developpers. For other cities outside china i saw proposed buildings popping up without even that And additionally we still do not have some threads for buildings like the 400m side tower in Wuhan next to Wuhan Greenland Center or the 300m little twin of the Ping'An Tower.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 02:52 PM   #13337
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what a nonsense. When information pops up about a chinese building zorg often does NOT open a thread until he has more information than a concept picture or more information about the developpers. For other cities outside china i saw proposed buildings popping up without even that And additionally we still do not have some threads for buildings like the 400m side tower in Wuhan next to Wuhan Greenland Center or the 300m little twin of the Ping'An Tower.
Exactly! Zorg is often the one who demands official sources for opening a new project thread. He is definetely not just posting some fantasy by some wannabe architects. I'm sure zOrg contributes much more to this forum than you, Los Earth!
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Old January 4th, 2013, 03:22 PM   #13338
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Yeah and zOrg can't help it but create a thread for every single existing Chinese tower that popped into someones mind (which could be well over a "million" threads)
In forum called "Supertalls" isnīt important which building is Chinese or Somalian, but whether the building is 300m+ China has 29 supertall buildings, UAE 24 and USA 14, thatīs why there are a lot of Chinese buildings in this thread and China will highlight itīs domination in following years

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Old January 4th, 2013, 03:50 PM   #13339
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^ i think the 4th tower from the graph is already built and its in nanjing..its called the zifeng tower. The height of the tower is correct.

and it also missed out canton east tower
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Old January 4th, 2013, 04:05 PM   #13340
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Is there still someone, around here, wishing to speak about ST (which, btw, is the argument of this thread)?

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