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Old August 12th, 2008, 01:29 PM   #1461
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dont worry there are still enough boxes getting built ;-)
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Old August 12th, 2008, 01:50 PM   #1462
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well~~the might consider demolishing then build a new one~~
In my view, the Pearl is not bad - there's more urgent stuff to get rid of, like those horrible towers on the "left" side of Pudong, crammed against each other for good measure.
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Old August 12th, 2008, 04:57 PM   #1463
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I never thought I'd be saying this - and it's obviously not that old - but the Pearl of the Orient Tower looks dated already.
Give it a couple centuries and it will no longer be dated but historic
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Old August 12th, 2008, 09:45 PM   #1464
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The Pearl looks great! At this point, it may be considered retro-futurism, a relic of Shanghai's old 'modern' designs. You can clearly see the time continium of architecture in the last 15 years on the skyline, you have the gaudy yet futuristic Pearl Tower, post modernism with JinMao, modern internationalist style with SWFC, and unabashedly futuristic design with Shanghai Center! As well as the Mirae Ass(et) tower, Citi Tower, and Aurora all looking modern, of course Aurora is a bit older.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 09:03 AM   #1465
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Old August 14th, 2008, 09:05 AM   #1466
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damn~~is it real???
btw~~the chick on ur dp looks hot~~
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Old August 14th, 2008, 09:33 AM   #1467
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1.2 建设内容和规模
上海中心大厦项目工程占地面积30370m2,建筑高度为632m,结构高度565.6m。项目建成后总建筑面积为558806m2。

Since it's in the EIA it should be the final height, any changes mean they would have to do a new EIA. So looks like 632m is the official architectural height (565.6m structural height). Time to change the thread name.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 09:41 AM   #1468
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I used to think that structural height included the highest structural point. What's 'architectural height' then? I hope it is not the height counting from the deepest underground level.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 09:51 AM   #1469
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Let's not jump to any conclusions yet.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 10:12 AM   #1470
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I used to think that structural height included the highest structural point. What's 'architectural height' then? I hope it is not the height counting from the deepest underground level.
Architectural height will be the glass curtain wall. The other height should be the concrete structure.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 10:15 AM   #1471
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Ok thanks. Then both structural and architectural height is 632m. They shoudln't call the concrete 565.6 height 'structural height', misleading term imo.

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Old August 14th, 2008, 10:28 AM   #1472
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565m should be the height of the concrete core, and 632 should be the height of the steel structure, which is the glass cladding?
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Old August 14th, 2008, 11:00 AM   #1473
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It's just the Chinese definition for it, in the EIA it says 结构 which is structure, but it refers to the structural aspect of the construction, i.e. the load bearing concrete part.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 11:43 AM   #1474
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632m is great, seems this one will be the 2nd tallest tower when topped out
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Old August 14th, 2008, 02:04 PM   #1475
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Wowowowow- nice render !!
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Old August 14th, 2008, 05:06 PM   #1476
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First off, hey everyone. Long time reader, first time poster (Sounds like some bad commercial, I know).

632 meters is..impressive. However I'm skeptical if it might be a bit too much. By all means, I'm not against size, but a building of such height can quickly seem a bit ridiculous. I wonder if they're just going to scale the already approved design up or if they're going to add any minor adjustments we have not yet heard of.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 05:12 PM   #1477
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uh oh, time for another adjustment to the pentominium!
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Old August 14th, 2008, 05:17 PM   #1478
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Cancel the last spire order, we need a bigger one!

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Old August 14th, 2008, 05:49 PM   #1479
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I think it was about the tallest all-residential title, so let's hope they're committed to their design now
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Old August 14th, 2008, 07:03 PM   #1480
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Holy mother of god .



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http://www.envir.gov.cn/info/2008/200808131.pdf (many thanks zOrg)
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