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Old August 27th, 2013, 07:49 PM   #16401
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Not posted in a while.

From my apartment this evening, bits of crane coming down etc.

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Old August 27th, 2013, 07:54 PM   #16402
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Do you live in one of the skyline mansion towers ?
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Old August 27th, 2013, 08:00 PM   #16403
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How big is New York compared to Shanghai?
If you include the entire New York DMA it is about 22 million people --- although this could be subjective. Shanghai is a major city no doubt. So is Tokyo's DMA.
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Old August 27th, 2013, 08:02 PM   #16404
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And now there are only three cranes ---
Oh well that's progress... means this bad boy is getting closer and closer...
I am really looking forward to seeing how they light this tower up at night! No doubt it is going to be spectacular!
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Old August 28th, 2013, 01:35 AM   #16405
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I still remember seeing pictures of those brand new cranes arriving on site three years ago.
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Old August 28th, 2013, 05:08 AM   #16406
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How big is New York compared to Shanghai?
newyork sprawl is one of the biggest in the world,but shanghai has the largest city center.
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Old August 28th, 2013, 05:24 AM   #16407
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What are you talking about? NY's one of the least sprawled cities on the planet.
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Old August 28th, 2013, 05:40 AM   #16408
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Actually, Shanghai is considered "The largest city proper by population in the world". All those 23 million people lives inside the city boundaries.

In contrast, in Tokyo lives only 13 million people, and the rest to 32 million, they live in the metropolitan area, which is not Tokyo.

So yeah, Shanghai as a city is bigger than Tokyo. But it's not as a metropolitan area.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16761784
16 million people livein the boundaries i thought..and 23 with the metropolitan area
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Old August 28th, 2013, 06:04 AM   #16409
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How big is New York compared to Shanghai?
NYC land area = 785 kmē
Shanghai land area = 6,340 kmē

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Actually, Shanghai is considered "The largest city proper by population in the world". All those 23 million people lives inside the city boundaries.

In contrast, in Tokyo lives only 13 million people, and the rest to 32 million, they live in the metropolitan area, which is not Tokyo.

So yeah, Shanghai as a city is bigger than Tokyo. But it's not as a metropolitan area.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16761784
I always thought it was Seoul...?

For some context:

This is a very complicated thing, and we can go on and on in circles...my rule of thumb is that, typically, when one is referring to a city, he/she is referring to the central "built environment." For Shanghai, that would be Puxi and some parts of Pudong (obviously Lujiazui)....Jiading, Anting, Songjiang, Minhang, etc are not part of the "city of Shanghai" but do fall under its administration, which is where things get tricky...


*NYC in it's entirety would fit within Pudong District (with plenty of room to spare...


NYC is a very small city (the 5 Burroughs), but it's metro area (MSA of about 30,671 kmē) does indeed stretch into Northern New Jersey, downstate New York, and even into Connecticut.



Here's a thought experiment, think about what the population density is for NYC (roughly 10,000 per kmē) and compare that to what it is for the entire administrative area of Shanghai (3,500 per kmē). Conversely, Shanghai's population density when you look at the core area (289 kmē) jumps somewhere close to 24,137 kmē - hard to find an exact figure for this - (and that for NYC's MSA drops to about 724 kmē, but no one would ever consider the area to be part of the actual city - though it's hard to compare this to Shanghai as it is one city administratively).

Again, this context is more useful when trying to compare cities. I find making a distinction between the "city of" Shanghai and the administrative entity of Shanghai to be very useful in these situations.

There's probably a better way to make this distinction in Chinese...In English, we use the term "City Proper" and a "Metropolitan Area" to make this distinction.


*and I don't think this is too off topic. I think it's important to help give context and a sense of scale for people who may not have yet had the opportunity to visit Shanghai...it's really a kind of micro City-State
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Old August 28th, 2013, 07:22 AM   #16410
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Old August 28th, 2013, 07:46 AM   #16411
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When Chinese sneeze there will be a hurricane for neightborhood countries.
We are here for construction updates and not for silly things..
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Old August 28th, 2013, 07:49 AM   #16412
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Are they done with bringing those 2 cranes down and when will they place the new crane in the middle of the core?
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Old August 28th, 2013, 08:31 AM   #16413
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Still three cranes, or there was when I left for work this morning.
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Old August 28th, 2013, 09:48 AM   #16414
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I have a view of this building from my office. But since my Chinese colleagues are vampires they don't open the blinds on our floor to ceiling windows. So no updates. I have no idea how many cranes are on top because I am not allowed to look.
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Old August 28th, 2013, 10:02 AM   #16415
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Anyone know a construction schedule to construct the crown?
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Old August 28th, 2013, 10:41 AM   #16416
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Old August 28th, 2013, 11:24 AM   #16417
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NYC land area = 785 kmē
Shanghai land area = 6,340 kmē



I always thought it was Seoul...?

For some context:

This is a very complicated thing, and we can go on and on in circles...my rule of thumb is that, typically, when one is referring to a city, he/she is referring to the central "built environment." For Shanghai, that would be Puxi and some parts of Pudong (obviously Lujiazui)....Jiading, Anting, Songjiang, Minhang, etc are not part of the "city of Shanghai" but do fall under its administration, which is where things get tricky...


*NYC in it's entirety would fit within Pudong District (with plenty of room to spare...


NYC is a very small city (the 5 Burroughs), but it's metro area (MSA of about 30,671 kmē) does indeed stretch into Northern New Jersey, downstate New York, and even into Connecticut.



Here's a thought experiment, think about what the population density is for NYC (roughly 10,000 per kmē) and compare that to what it is for the entire administrative area of Shanghai (3,000 per kmē). Conversely, Shanghai's population density when you look at the core area jumps to more than 6,000 kmē (and that for NYC's MSA drops to about 724 kmē, but no one would ever consider the area to be part of the actual city - though it's hard to compare this to Shanghai as it is one city administratively).

Again, this context is more useful when trying to compare cities. I find making a distinction between the "city of" Shanghai and the administrative entity of Shanghai to be very useful in these situations.

There's probably a better way to make this distinction in Chinese...In English, we use the term "City Proper" and a "Metropolitan Area" to make this distinction

*and I don't think this is too off topic. I think it's important to help give context and a sense of scale for people who may not have yet had the opportunity to visit Shanghai...it's really a kind of micro City-State
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Old August 28th, 2013, 01:41 PM   #16418
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Old August 28th, 2013, 01:47 PM   #16419
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One crane almost complete down already, nice
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Old August 28th, 2013, 02:06 PM   #16420
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I have a view of this building from my office. But since my Chinese colleagues are vampires they don't open the blinds on our floor to ceiling windows. So no updates. I have no idea how many cranes are on top because I am not allowed to look.
I agree, that is exactly what happens when i went back for intern. They shut the blinds on a cloudy day.. what?

They are mainly done by female colleagues though.
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