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Old December 23rd, 2013, 01:57 PM   #17681
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definitely ST has give big impact to Shanghai skyline panorama....
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 07:59 PM   #17682
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It looks like something is being built now on the top of the top truss belt levels. I hope we see some close-up pictures of that soon...
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 08:40 PM   #17683
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more steel for the crown I guess
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 09:36 PM   #17684
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can't wait to see the crown completed!
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 10:06 PM   #17685
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I feel like this tower is going to be in great shape come my China trip the end of March!!!
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Old December 24th, 2013, 05:35 AM   #17686
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Old December 24th, 2013, 08:58 AM   #17687
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Photos copyright: bcshao

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The most beautiful part of the most beautiful tower is taking shape



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Old December 24th, 2013, 10:13 AM   #17688
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Photos copyright: bcshao Dec 24. The most beautiful part of the most beautiful tower is taking shape
Slowly but surely
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Old December 24th, 2013, 11:34 AM   #17689
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yes, finally work on the crown
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Old December 24th, 2013, 04:33 PM   #17690
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Why are houses in the aera of ''CBD''? What kind of urbanistic plans is that...20m tall blocks and then next to 500m skyscrapers...
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Old December 24th, 2013, 04:37 PM   #17691
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Why are houses in the aera of ''CBD''? What kind of urbanistic plans is that...20m tall blocks and then next to 500m skyscrapers...
What do you think was earlier in that area? The Skyscrapers or the houses?
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Old December 24th, 2013, 04:59 PM   #17692
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What do you think was earlier in that area? The Skyscrapers or the houses?
That's true. Know someone if they have some vision, how would all this area look like in near future? (without blocks)
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Old December 24th, 2013, 08:23 PM   #17693
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I can just about picture what the crown is going to look like
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Old December 24th, 2013, 08:58 PM   #17694
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Wow, nice work on the crown. This is from Patrykus, on Youtube. Around 4:45 shows the current work on the top and what is to come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ521NTz4lk
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Old December 24th, 2013, 09:41 PM   #17695
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The lack of bridges kind of makes the city center seem to be out of reach for all those people. Nice skyline, though.
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I think there are subways.
Within the immediate area Puxi and Pudong are connected by both subway and river ferry.
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Old December 24th, 2013, 10:26 PM   #17696
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Within the immediate area Puxi and Pudong are connected by both subway and river ferry.
They cant built bridges ,cause of the ship trade
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Old December 24th, 2013, 11:42 PM   #17697
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Most people use subways to get from Pudong to Puxi (and back).
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Old December 25th, 2013, 01:05 AM   #17698
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Here is the 2013 subway map posted by big-dog. You can see the river labeled in the map.

There are al least the same number of tunnels (for cars) crossing the river too.

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Old December 25th, 2013, 01:09 AM   #17699
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Here is the 2013 subway map posted by big-dog. You can see the river labeled in the map. There are al least the same number of tunnels (for cars) crossing the river too.
I think what he means is that, if you are on the West Bank (Hongkou or Huangpu Districts), it can be annoying to cross. To be honest, most people in that situation do just take the ferry, as you'd otherwise need to walk a ways to get to a station or just hail a taxi. It is a bit odd, but unavoidable given the ship traffic.
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Old December 25th, 2013, 03:06 AM   #17700
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Just a few notes here I need to toss on the fire.

- What is the deal with blaming some chinese cities of being "too much influenced by the west", or "too much westernized"?

And when you get down to it, it turns out to be all an e-peen discussion about where the architect came from.

There is an old saying in China: "Everyone who comes to China will eventually become chinese". Todays chinese disagree obviously, but something tells me it is all about pride. When China ruled the world economically 500 years ago, they didn't care about the same pride. It was already there, and they had nothing to prove.

Now the problem (or is it a problem?) today is that influence has no boundaries. And with that comes design and inspiration. It goes both ways, or all ways. Not only from the west to the east, but from the east to the west as well (feng shui). And even from elsewhere too (Zaha Hadid, Iraq).

And "western skyscraper design"? You gotta be kidding me! Do you all refer to a tower of glas and steel? Straight up and down? If you are supposed to refer to someething "western", at least refer to a "style". Boxed tinted skyscrapers are as revoked of a design as it gets. And if there ever was a western skyscraper design (ofcourse, here thinking American, as Europe doesn't have much skyscraper history), it must be the old "gothic" blocks in New York and Chicago, and I don't see any of those gothic style skyscrapers in China.

And does it even matter where the architect comes from? It sounds like ludicrious to me. The ones paying for the buildings are the ones who finally decides on the design. Good or bad, style or no style. And is there any point in setting up a new "wall of China" in terms of architecture? Say hello to protectionism, narcisism and facism then, and bid economic progress farewell! End of rant.

What I'm saying is that its all fine and dandy that people want something they can call their own 100%, and be proud of it in a nationalistic way for sports, but it aint good when people spend their time on the internet ranting against globalism and the fear of something new.

In the end I think you are all better off spending your time looking at other countries forums, for more inspiration to imagine how to better make your own cities in the future. Or even better, go travel! Now thats progress!

Edit: Or do you all really just want the world to be a theme park, with one cage for the bears, and one for the pandas? Separated by hundreads of thousands of miles. Well, in that case, you'll save time by gathering all the animals all at one place! Its called a ZOO, and you're living in it! hehe
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