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Old March 30th, 2014, 12:13 PM   #18881
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Old March 30th, 2014, 12:13 PM   #18882
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have any new design megatalls in future?? M tower 900meter after Shanghai tower completed an finished u/c ???
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Old March 30th, 2014, 12:23 PM   #18883
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Old March 30th, 2014, 01:07 PM   #18884
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As u can see a lot of lowrise residentials in between. Manhattan and for example HK Island are still denser city centers, but Shanghai is just more spread out over a wide area, that's what Shanghai makes so impressive.
I agree, would sacrifice density for the french concession around changle road and julu road any day
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Old March 30th, 2014, 01:26 PM   #18885
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^ Haha that's of course never gonna happen. It's another area that makes Shanghai so unique. Next to skyscrapers and urbanity, old small-scaled neighborhoods, there is the tree-filled, laid back French Concession with it's nice restaurants for outoor dining/chilling.

Awesome area imo. Too bad it's overcrowded by too many foreigners who are often disrespectful to Chinese people and Chinese culture. Besides, not less important, too bad you have to pay €10,- for half a liter of beer at most places in that area...

But now we're too much off-topic I guess.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 05:11 PM   #18886
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Old March 31st, 2014, 02:13 AM   #18887
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^ It is dense, but it's not as dense as it might look like in this photo. Look at the photo below (January 2014), its the same position, just zoomed out a little:



As u can see a lot of lowrise residentials in between. Manhattan and for example HK Island are still denser city centers, but Shanghai is just more spread out over a wide area, that's what Shanghai makes so impressive.
I agree with this, I think Hong Kong and New York actually get under appreciated sometimes in the skyscraper world because all of the skyscrapers are so close together making the city appear smaller. In reality both of those cities actually have roughly double the amount of 200 meter buildings Shanghai does.

Shanghai's endless vastness is beyond awesome though whereas Hong Kong, NYC, Chicago, Dubai all have visible ends outside of the skyscraper cores for the most part.

It goes to show that smaller buildings in huge numbers also matter for an impressive cityscape.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 02:32 AM   #18888
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In reality both of those cities actually have roughly double the amount of 200 meter buildings Shanghai does.
Are you sure about that? What is your source?

If we trust information in Wikipedia then numbers of 200+m buildings are the following:

Hong Kong: 60
NYC: 56
Shanghai: 44
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Old March 31st, 2014, 05:29 AM   #18889
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For me this point of view is still my favorite (~10km distance to Shanghai Tower):



Photo taken this January.

When zooming out a little other towers are visible as well, such as White Magnolia Plaza, Xujiahui Towers etc. Still some 200+ towers missing though...

people....is this building under construction in the middle dazhongli shanghai?
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Nice progress, should be around 150m now.

Photo's taken yesterday and last monday:

13-01-14

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Old March 31st, 2014, 06:23 AM   #18890
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Old March 31st, 2014, 08:51 AM   #18891
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Old March 31st, 2014, 11:30 AM   #18892
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Old March 31st, 2014, 09:18 PM   #18893
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Imagine the completed tower when cladding is cleaned and the crown is finished
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Old March 31st, 2014, 09:20 PM   #18894
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people....is this building under construction in the middle dazhongli shanghai?
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Old March 31st, 2014, 09:34 PM   #18895
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Old March 31st, 2014, 10:10 PM   #18896
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I agree with this, I think Hong Kong and New York actually get under appreciated sometimes in the skyscraper world because all of the skyscrapers are so close together making the city appear smaller. In reality both of those cities actually have roughly double the amount of 200 meter buildings Shanghai does.

Shanghai's endless vastness is beyond awesome though whereas Hong Kong, NYC, Chicago, Dubai all have visible ends outside of the skyscraper cores for the most part.

It goes to show that smaller buildings in huge numbers also matter for an impressive cityscape.
Hong Kong is tiny! He island itself is enormously dense but it is tiny.

Manhattan is not all high-rise at all. While Shanghai is almost all high-rise, we'll there are lots of mid-rises but there are many of the. In Manhattan, too. And don't forget the fact that in Shanghai the dense built-up area extends for 15 km from Huangpu to the west, pudong excluded.

Second, why do you count only 200+ m buildings? A skyscraper is a building which is 150 m high or taller. And here, I think, Shanghai is much much underestimated.

At Emporis and even Skyscraperpage New York and Hong Kong have impressive numbers in their databases. But Shanghai is poorly described there. Hundreds of residential high rises are not counted.
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Old April 1st, 2014, 01:18 AM   #18897
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I like everything on this tower. One of my cousins will travel to Shanghai in a couple weeks...i'm so jealous...
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Old April 1st, 2014, 07:20 AM   #18898
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Hong Kong is tiny! He island itself is enormously dense but it is tiny.

Manhattan is not all high-rise at all. While Shanghai is almost all high-rise, we'll there are lots of mid-rises but there are many of the. In Manhattan, too. And don't forget the fact that in Shanghai the dense built-up area extends for 15 km from Huangpu to the west, pudong excluded.

Second, why do you count only 200+ m buildings? A skyscraper is a building which is 150 m high or taller. And here, I think, Shanghai is much much underestimated.

At Emporis and even Skyscraperpage New York and Hong Kong have impressive numbers in their databases. But Shanghai is poorly described there. Hundreds of residential high rises are not counted.
Not just Shanghai but all the Mainland cities. Unless there's an announcement in the media media then they don't count. I mean threads on whole blocks of high rises including multiple skyscrapers are routinely taken down due to the lack of proof even though there are photos showing them. The reverse is also true there are threads for buildings which don't exist because somebody issued a press release saying they might exist one day.

The best proof you;ll ever have that things actually exist is a good set of eyes plenty of money wouldn't hurt either.
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Old April 1st, 2014, 11:11 AM   #18899
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Well, I haven't seen in many mainland cities so many skyscrapers built in a dense way for such a vast area than it is in Shanghai.

I wonder if we can count all the buildings in Shanghai that are taller than 100 or 150 meters. I'm pretty sure it will leave far behind all cities of the world.

Where can I find information on all projects in Shanghai? Emporis is just very poor, the same is SSPage. I would be grateful if you could help me. I don't speak much Chinese, but if there are any sources in Chinese, that would be great.

To count all Chinese cities will take longer than a lifetime So I'll be pleased with all info on Shanghai only.
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^ It is dense, but it's not as dense as it might look like in this photo. Look at the photo below (January 2014), its the same position, just zoomed out a little:



As u can see a lot of lowrise residentials in between. Manhattan and for example HK Island are still denser city centers, but Shanghai is just more spread out over a wide area, that's what Shanghai makes so impressive.
I wound't find Manhattan denser. HK maybe, but it is, like I said, tiny and there are mid-rises, too.

Then, do not forget the ocean of residential highrises taller than 100 - 150 meters to the left and to the right of what is seen on the picture.
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