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Old September 7th, 2006, 08:49 PM   #1
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NYC: World Trade Center (1776, 1350, 1255, 946, 750FT)

How do you think about it?

1 WTC / Freedom Tower, 1776FT
2 WTC (Foster), 1350 FT
3 WTC (Rogers), 1255 FT
4 WTC (Maki), 946 FT
7 WTC (Childs), 750 FT








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I think is amazing! Although I am not too crazy about tower 4.
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I think it looks lovely but I still think Freedom Tower should had been designed to become the highest of the world at least for some time.

Now, it doesn't seem possible, as some other higher towers are u/c already. :/
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Out of all of them, 2 & 3 are my favourite. I'm not sure which of the two I prefer more. T3 Is Gothic IMO, yet very modern at the same time, it is more 'New York' than the other 3. T2 is simplistic yet it really stands out, a stunning design, and contributes to the memorial in the way 2 of the 4 'diamonds' on the roof catch the sun and reflect it on to the two memorial pools.
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This question may sound a bit dumb,but are all those towers gonna be built?Is this the final plan for the whole WTC complex?
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Foster and Partners has designed a 78-storey office tower at 200 Greenwich Street as part of the redevelopment of the World Trade Center site in New York. One of the most important urban planning and architectural challenges of recent times, the concept is driven by memory, but equally by a sense of rebirth. Its sparkling glazed crystalline form and diamond shaped summit create a bold addition to the New York skyline.

Arranged around a central cruciform core, the tower comprises four blocks containing light filled, flexible, column free office floors that rise to the 59th floor, whereupon the glass façades are sheared off at an angle to address the Memorial Park. Giving the building its distinctive inclined summit, 200 Greenwich Street also acts as a symbolic marker of the location of the Memorial Park when viewed from any location. The upper floors contained within the summit provide the opportunity for spectacular multiple-height function rooms with sweeping views of the park, the river and the city.

A continuation of Foster and Partners’ investigation into the nature of the tower, 200 Greenwich Street takes structural, functional, security, environmental and urban logic to a new dimension. The tower is informed by the geometry of the site, with the cruciform core providing the structural backbone as well as the key organising diagram. It accommodates the primary vertical circulation, with high speed shuttle elevators rising to an intermediate sky lobby where the upper floors are served by two further banks of elevators. It also allows for cross corridor circulation by providing excellent orientation at every level, and opening views out across the office spaces.

Extending the logic of the core, the volume of the tower is punctuated on all four sides by notches – elegantly breaking up the mass of the tower into four interconnected blocks. Towards the perimeter, the core culminates in dedicated flexible zones with the opportunity to create staircases between floors, and the possibility for double-height atria. These zones can be an integral part of the building’s environmental strategy by drawing fresh air into the building during spring and autumn. Designed to the highest energy efficiency ratings, 200 Greenwich Street will seek to achieve the gold standard under the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) by the US Green Building Council.

Connections with the city at street level have been reinforced with glass walls creating a visual relationship with the surrounding streets. The imposing double height ground floor lobby is connected at the Greenwich Street entrance to the MTA providing direct access to the underground infrastructure system. The lobby rises in level along Vesey Street and includes a further connection with the transport system via escalators and a four-storey shopping area connecting with Fulton Street and spilling out onto the Wedge of Light plaza.

Lord Foster said:“We are pleased to unveil our design for Tower Two on the site of the World Trade Center, a building that symbolises the renaissance of New York on the skyline while also re-establishing and reviving Greenwich Street at ground level. The crystalline top of the tower respects the masterplan and bows down to the memorial park commemorating the tragic events that unfolded here. But it is also a powerful symbol of hope for the future. The dramatic height of the tower celebrates the spirit that has historically driven Manhattan to build tall, and the diamond-shaped top will be a crowning landmark on the city's skyline."
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DESIGNS FOR THREE WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS UNVEILED

An Historic Day in the World Trade Center Rebuilding as Governor Pataki, Assembly Speaker Silver, Larry Silverstein and Three Renowned Architects Reveal a Collaborative Vision for Future Heart of Downtown's Commercial Corridor

NEW YORK, September 7, 2006 – In an exceptional assemblage of international architectural talent, Governor George E. Pataki, New York State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, World Trade Center Developer Larry A. Silverstein and architects Lord Norman Foster, Lord Richard Rogers and Fumihiko Maki gathered at 7 World Trade Center today to unveil designs for the three World Trade Center towers that will rise along the site's eastern edge, forming what will be the heart of a revitalized Downtown Manhattan's retail, transportation and office corridor.

Along with the Santiago Calatrava-designed PATH Transportation Hub, the three towers, bounded by Church Street to the east and a reintroduced Greenwich Street to the west, will occupy the length of the east side of the World Trade Center site. In keeping with the Libeskind master plan for the site, the towers will form a descending spiral toward the Memorial and will include 6.2 million square feet of office space and a half million square feet of interconnected and contiguous first-class retail.

The three towers were designed to seamlessly integrate with what will be newly-created pedestrian thoroughfares along the reconnected grid at Cortlandt and Dey Streets, the WTC Transportation Hub, which sits between the towers at 200 and 175 Greenwich, and the rest of the downtown neighborhood, including the Fulton Street Transit Center.

Governor George E. Pataki said, "As the world stood transfixed on how Americans and New Yorkers would respond to the worst attacks on American soil, we dared to dream big and think bold. We selected the visionary master site plan by Daniel Libeskind that placed the Memorial to our nearly 3,000 lost heroes at its heart and that inspired plan, not only remains intact, but will be nearly fully realized by 2012. Today, three brilliant architects from around the globe have given New York and the nation a great gift in the tremendous buildings they have designed. Like our great city, these tower designs, joined by the Freedom Tower, Calatrava Transportation Hub and grand memorial, will fuse different approaches and perspectives and create an entirety that will be even richer in its beauty and more extraordinary in its entirety than the sum of its parts."

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said, "The new towers will be a magnificent addition to the rebirth of Lower Manhattan. Not only will they create vibrant retail stores and superior commercial space, but these spectacular skyscrapers will join the PATH Station, the Freedom Tower, and the World Trade Center Memorial to make Lower Manhattan one of the most exceptional places on earth. The new skyline that will be created will be worthy of our new 21st century downtown, restoring the splendor of our City's historic birthplace."

"This is an exciting day that my community has been eagerly awaiting for the last 5 years," said NYS Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver. "I commend Larry Silverstein, his team and the world-class architects for finally breathing hope into downtown Manhattan and for heeding my calls for a plan that would recapture the true spirit and original character of this historic community. This plan not only recaptures the spirit of this place, but dramatically improves the environment for retail businesses, including small and family-run businesses, and for that, all of Lower Manhattan is grateful."

Mr. Silverstein named Lord Foster as the architect for 200 Greenwich (tower 2) in December 2005. In May, Lord Rogers and Mr. Maki were named to design 175 Greenwich (tower 3) and 150 Greenwich (tower 4), respectively. Immediately after the announcement, Mr. Silverstein created an architect's design studio on the 25th floor of 7 World Trade Center. Teams of architects, engineers and government planners have since been working daily to produce architectural plans and underground programming in an unprecedented spirit of collaboration.

"I am amazed by what we have been able to accomplish in a few short months," said Mr. Silverstein. "Each design is timeless in its feel and reflects the individual genius of each architect. At the same time, the towers relate perfectly to each other visually and, together, will enliven the surrounding area with a dynamic retail-oriented streetscape."

Port Authority Vice Chairman Charles A. Gargano said, "Today's announcement represents a critical step in our plans to revitalize New York City and Lower Manhattan. Working cooperatively with Silverstein Properties—which commissioned world-renowned architects to design three of the World Trade Center's new office towers—the Port Authority is working aggressively to build a new bathtub for the buildings along Church Street. We want to see those beautiful towers built as quickly as possible, and we are doing everything we can to make that happen."

Deputy Mayor for Economic Development & Rebuilding Daniel L. Doctoroff said, "Today's announcement is another step forward in our collective efforts to cement Lower Manhattan as one of the greatest comeback stories in New York history. These towers will provide a stunning testament to New Yorkers' courage, imagination, and determination to rebuild better than before, creating new connections with the surrounding neighborhoods, bringing life to the streets through above ground retail, and forming a striking new commercial corridor."

In keeping with the model established by 7 World Trade Center and the Freedom Tower, the three Greenwich Street towers will serve as the paradigm of modern skyscrapers in terms of environmental quality, life safety and technology. Silverstein Properties has committed to ensuring that each of the three towers will achieve at least a gold rating, as did the recently completed 7WTC, under the U.S. Green Building Council's Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) program. The three towers also will incorporate a wide range of life safety features that go far beyond New York City building code.

Silverstein Properties has committed to commencing construction on each tower as soon as the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, which is responsible for excavating and constructing a 'bathtub' along the eastern portion of the site, turns over buildable sites. According to the new World Trade Center timetable, all three towers will be completed by 2012.

200 Greenwich Street/Tower 2
Foster and Partners has designed a 78-story tower at 200 Greenwich. The tower, which will rise to 1,254 feet, is bounded by Greenwich Street to the west, Church Street to the east, Vesey Street to the north and Fulton Street to the south. It will contain 143,000 square feet of retail (95,000 square feet at or above street level), 60 office floors that total 2.3 million square feet, four trading floors and a 65-foot high office lobby.

Arranged around a central cruciform core, the tower comprises four blocks, containing light-filled, flexible, column-free office floors that rise to the 59th floor, where the glass facades shear off at an angle to address the Memorial Park. Extending the logic of the core, the volume of the tower is punctuated on all four sides by notches—elegantly breaking up the mass of the tower into four interconnected blocks. The upper floor contained within the summit provides an opportunity for spectacular multiple-height function rooms with sweeping views of the Memorial, the river and the city.

Said Lord Foster, "We are pleased to unveil our design for Tower Two on the site of the World Trade Center, a building that symbolizes the renaissance of New York on the skyline while also re-establishing and reviving Greenwich Street at ground level. The crystalline top of the tower respects the master plan and bows down to the Memorial Park commemorating the tragic events that unfolded here. But it is also a powerful symbol of hope for the future. The dramatic height of the tower celebrates the spirit that has historically driven Manhattan to build tall, and the diamond-shaped top will be a crowning landmark on the city's skyline."

175 Greenwich Street/Tower 3
The 71-story 175 Greenwich tower, designed by Richard Rogers Partnership, will rise to 1,155 feet above street level. It is located on the site bounded by Greenwich Street to the west, Church Street to the east, Dey Street to the north and Cortlandt Street to the south. The tower will include 133,000 square feet of retail (73,000 square feet at or above street level); 54 office floors (2.1 million square feet) and five trading floors.

The design uses a structural load-sharing system of diamond-shaped bracing which helps to articulate the building's east-west configuration. All corners of the tower are column free to ensure that occupants of the office levels enjoy unimpeded 360-degree panoramic views of New York. The upper levels of the tower appear to straddle the lower levels—the "podium building"—which emphasizes the interlocking nature of the base with the upper part of the building. The three-level high lobby on Greenwich Street offers a "big picture window" onto the World Trade Center Memorial.

Richard Rogers said,"175 Greenwich will occupy a hugely significant site in Lower Manhattan and in New York. We believe we have designed a transparent and legible building which responds both to the architectural and social context of the area, and one which will make a fitting contribution to the New York skyline."

150 Greenwich/Tower 4
The 61-story 150 Greenwich Street tower, designed by Fumihiko Maki and Maki and Associates, is located on the site bounded by Greenwich Street to the west, Church Street to the east, Cortlandt Street to the north and Liberty Street to the south. The 947-foot tall building will include 53 office floors (1.8 million square feet), as well as five floors of retail, three of which are at or above grade.

The tower has an abstract quality—minimal, light, cool in color and ephemeral, changing with the light of day. Seen from a distance, the building presents a unique angular profile at the crown effectuating the spiral composition formed by the group of four towers and looking back to the Memorial and the Freedom Tower. Facing Church Street is an 85-foot atrium offering a new dynamic urban experience by amalgamating the transit hall and retail into a single, identifiable whole, featuring multiple cascading floors that will enliven the street and become a symbolic feature of a revitalized World Trade Center.

Said Fumihiko Maki, "The fundamental approach to the design of the tower at 150 Greenwich is two-fold—a 'minimalist' tower that achieves an appropriate presence, quiet but with dignity, becoming a tribute to the Memorial, and a 'podium' that becomes a catalyst in activating and enlivening the immediate urban environment as part of the revitalization of Downtown New York."
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Overall rather nice, but a little bit too eclectic...

And I still don't like the top of tower 1...
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YEs love the other ones, freedom tower still sucks
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DESIGNS FOR THREE WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS UNVEILED

An Historic Day in the World Trade Center Rebuilding as Governor Pataki, Assembly Speaker Silver, Larry Silverstein and Three Renowned Architects Reveal a Collaborative Vision for Future Heart of Downtown's Commercial Corridor

NEW YORK, September 7, 2006 – In an exceptional assemblage of international architectural talent, Governor George E. Pataki, New York State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, World Trade Center Developer Larry A. Silverstein and architects Lord Norman Foster, Lord Richard Rogers and Fumihiko Maki gathered at 7 World Trade Center today to unveil designs for the three World Trade Center towers that will rise along the site's eastern edge, forming what will be the heart of a revitalized Downtown Manhattan's retail, transportation and office corridor.

Along with the Santiago Calatrava-designed PATH Transportation Hub, the three towers, bounded by Church Street to the east and a reintroduced Greenwich Street to the west, will occupy the length of the east side of the World Trade Center site. In keeping with the Libeskind master plan for the site, the towers will form a descending spiral toward the Memorial and will include 6.2 million square feet of office space and a half million square feet of interconnected and contiguous first-class retail.

The three towers were designed to seamlessly integrate with what will be newly-created pedestrian thoroughfares along the reconnected grid at Cortlandt and Dey Streets, the WTC Transportation Hub, which sits between the towers at 200 and 175 Greenwich, and the rest of the downtown neighborhood, including the Fulton Street Transit Center.

Governor George E. Pataki said, "As the world stood transfixed on how Americans and New Yorkers would respond to the worst attacks on American soil, we dared to dream big and think bold. We selected the visionary master site plan by Daniel Libeskind that placed the Memorial to our nearly 3,000 lost heroes at its heart and that inspired plan, not only remains intact, but will be nearly fully realized by 2012. Today, three brilliant architects from around the globe have given New York and the nation a great gift in the tremendous buildings they have designed. Like our great city, these tower designs, joined by the Freedom Tower, Calatrava Transportation Hub and grand memorial, will fuse different approaches and perspectives and create an entirety that will be even richer in its beauty and more extraordinary in its entirety than the sum of its parts."

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said, "The new towers will be a magnificent addition to the rebirth of Lower Manhattan. Not only will they create vibrant retail stores and superior commercial space, but these spectacular skyscrapers will join the PATH Station, the Freedom Tower, and the World Trade Center Memorial to make Lower Manhattan one of the most exceptional places on earth. The new skyline that will be created will be worthy of our new 21st century downtown, restoring the splendor of our City's historic birthplace."

"This is an exciting day that my community has been eagerly awaiting for the last 5 years," said NYS Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver. "I commend Larry Silverstein, his team and the world-class architects for finally breathing hope into downtown Manhattan and for heeding my calls for a plan that would recapture the true spirit and original character of this historic community. This plan not only recaptures the spirit of this place, but dramatically improves the environment for retail businesses, including small and family-run businesses, and for that, all of Lower Manhattan is grateful."

Mr. Silverstein named Lord Foster as the architect for 200 Greenwich (tower 2) in December 2005. In May, Lord Rogers and Mr. Maki were named to design 175 Greenwich (tower 3) and 150 Greenwich (tower 4), respectively. Immediately after the announcement, Mr. Silverstein created an architect's design studio on the 25th floor of 7 World Trade Center. Teams of architects, engineers and government planners have since been working daily to produce architectural plans and underground programming in an unprecedented spirit of collaboration.

"I am amazed by what we have been able to accomplish in a few short months," said Mr. Silverstein. "Each design is timeless in its feel and reflects the individual genius of each architect. At the same time, the towers relate perfectly to each other visually and, together, will enliven the surrounding area with a dynamic retail-oriented streetscape."

Port Authority Vice Chairman Charles A. Gargano said, "Today's announcement represents a critical step in our plans to revitalize New York City and Lower Manhattan. Working cooperatively with Silverstein Properties—which commissioned world-renowned architects to design three of the World Trade Center's new office towers—the Port Authority is working aggressively to build a new bathtub for the buildings along Church Street. We want to see those beautiful towers built as quickly as possible, and we are doing everything we can to make that happen."

Deputy Mayor for Economic Development & Rebuilding Daniel L. Doctoroff said, "Today's announcement is another step forward in our collective efforts to cement Lower Manhattan as one of the greatest comeback stories in New York history. These towers will provide a stunning testament to New Yorkers' courage, imagination, and determination to rebuild better than before, creating new connections with the surrounding neighborhoods, bringing life to the streets through above ground retail, and forming a striking new commercial corridor."

In keeping with the model established by 7 World Trade Center and the Freedom Tower, the three Greenwich Street towers will serve as the paradigm of modern skyscrapers in terms of environmental quality, life safety and technology. Silverstein Properties has committed to ensuring that each of the three towers will achieve at least a gold rating, as did the recently completed 7WTC, under the U.S. Green Building Council's Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) program. The three towers also will incorporate a wide range of life safety features that go far beyond New York City building code.

Silverstein Properties has committed to commencing construction on each tower as soon as the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, which is responsible for excavating and constructing a 'bathtub' along the eastern portion of the site, turns over buildable sites. According to the new World Trade Center timetable, all three towers will be completed by 2012.

200 Greenwich Street/Tower 2
Foster and Partners has designed a 78-story tower at 200 Greenwich. The tower, which will rise to 1,254 feet, is bounded by Greenwich Street to the west, Church Street to the east, Vesey Street to the north and Fulton Street to the south. It will contain 143,000 square feet of retail (95,000 square feet at or above street level), 60 office floors that total 2.3 million square feet, four trading floors and a 65-foot high office lobby.

Arranged around a central cruciform core, the tower comprises four blocks, containing light-filled, flexible, column-free office floors that rise to the 59th floor, where the glass facades shear off at an angle to address the Memorial Park. Extending the logic of the core, the volume of the tower is punctuated on all four sides by notches—elegantly breaking up the mass of the tower into four interconnected blocks. The upper floor contained within the summit provides an opportunity for spectacular multiple-height function rooms with sweeping views of the Memorial, the river and the city.

Said Lord Foster, "We are pleased to unveil our design for Tower Two on the site of the World Trade Center, a building that symbolizes the renaissance of New York on the skyline while also re-establishing and reviving Greenwich Street at ground level. The crystalline top of the tower respects the master plan and bows down to the Memorial Park commemorating the tragic events that unfolded here. But it is also a powerful symbol of hope for the future. The dramatic height of the tower celebrates the spirit that has historically driven Manhattan to build tall, and the diamond-shaped top will be a crowning landmark on the city's skyline."

175 Greenwich Street/Tower 3
The 71-story 175 Greenwich tower, designed by Richard Rogers Partnership, will rise to 1,155 feet above street level. It is located on the site bounded by Greenwich Street to the west, Church Street to the east, Dey Street to the north and Cortlandt Street to the south. The tower will include 133,000 square feet of retail (73,000 square feet at or above street level); 54 office floors (2.1 million square feet) and five trading floors.

The design uses a structural load-sharing system of diamond-shaped bracing which helps to articulate the building's east-west configuration. All corners of the tower are column free to ensure that occupants of the office levels enjoy unimpeded 360-degree panoramic views of New York. The upper levels of the tower appear to straddle the lower levels—the "podium building"—which emphasizes the interlocking nature of the base with the upper part of the building. The three-level high lobby on Greenwich Street offers a "big picture window" onto the World Trade Center Memorial.

Richard Rogers said,"175 Greenwich will occupy a hugely significant site in Lower Manhattan and in New York. We believe we have designed a transparent and legible building which responds both to the architectural and social context of the area, and one which will make a fitting contribution to the New York skyline."

150 Greenwich/Tower 4
The 61-story 150 Greenwich Street tower, designed by Fumihiko Maki and Maki and Associates, is located on the site bounded by Greenwich Street to the west, Church Street to the east, Cortlandt Street to the north and Liberty Street to the south. The 947-foot tall building will include 53 office floors (1.8 million square feet), as well as five floors of retail, three of which are at or above grade.

The tower has an abstract quality—minimal, light, cool in color and ephemeral, changing with the light of day. Seen from a distance, the building presents a unique angular profile at the crown effectuating the spiral composition formed by the group of four towers and looking back to the Memorial and the Freedom Tower. Facing Church Street is an 85-foot atrium offering a new dynamic urban experience by amalgamating the transit hall and retail into a single, identifiable whole, featuring multiple cascading floors that will enliven the street and become a symbolic feature of a revitalized World Trade Center.

Said Fumihiko Maki, "The fundamental approach to the design of the tower at 150 Greenwich is two-fold—a 'minimalist' tower that achieves an appropriate presence, quiet but with dignity, becoming a tribute to the Memorial, and a 'podium' that becomes a catalyst in activating and enlivening the immediate urban environment as part of the revitalization of Downtown New York."
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Number 2 looks great but I'm not crazy about number 3.
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my question is is there a 5 and 6 it may sound kinda dumb but i was just wondering
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my question is is there a 5 and 6 it may sound kinda dumb but i was just wondering
According to what I've read,the WTC 5 will be located in the place now occupied by the Deutsche Bank.Don't know about the WTC 6...
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my question is is there a 5 and 6 it may sound kinda dumb but i was just wondering
On the WTC websibe it has a page for WTC 5 that says something like coming soon
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Wow! They look really good! I love Tower 2, but it looks crazy!
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HHmmm FT look pretty damn sexy in this rendering.
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I think #2 looks rather tacky and I feel the diamond effect will be mostly lost to curbside citizens. #3 looks like a ripoff of the NYTimes tower with some Hancock Center ripoff effects down the middle, and #4 is completely boring. What a shame.
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I think #2 looks rather tacky and I feel the diamond effect will be mostly lost to curbside citizens. #3 looks like a ripoff of the NYTimes tower with some Hancock Center ripoff effects down the middle, and #4 is completely boring. What a shame.

true 3 does looks like NYT Tower.......
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