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Old September 8th, 2006, 10:06 PM   #81
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Just a dumb question, what are the 2 "pools" (squares) that are in the pictures??? I don't remember to have seen them before.
Well you said it. That really was a dumb question.
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Old September 8th, 2006, 10:27 PM   #82
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The two squares or "pools" are the footprints of the former twin towers.The squares should visitors in the future show where the towers stood.
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Old September 8th, 2006, 11:00 PM   #83
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Individually, these are all good designs, but i'm disappointed at the outcome. There's no cohesion at all between the buildings, no sense of a 'center' or complex. Its just 4 individual tower designs which is a real shame because this site deserves a decent development.

Sadly this is not it.
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Old September 9th, 2006, 02:57 AM   #84
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Not sure if the linsk been posted but the BBC has a news report here which has a flyby of the development- worth watching

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5325794.stm
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Old September 9th, 2006, 05:01 AM   #85
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don't worry about your English, i'm sure it's better than our Chinese. I disagree with you. These buildings are comparable to anything in Hong Kong, especially the Foster beauty. The Rogers tower will make a nice compliment to the new NYTimes Tower uptown.
i think if these buildings locate in other city such as bubai,seoul,moscow,they are good.but in fact they locate in nyc,so i have to say i am so dissapointed.
especially the new wtc 3th,i think it so ugly,and outdated,just like the design of 1970's in chicargo.
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Old September 9th, 2006, 05:52 AM   #86
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I've seen, in several news articles, that Tower 3 has four 100 foot spires. Is this true? Are they really spires? If so, the new tower would be taller than the Empire State Building, right?
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Old September 9th, 2006, 06:25 AM   #87
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This will be one of the single best urban spots in the world. It looks amazing. The towers are stunning, the memorial is magnificent and Calatrava's train station is SURREAL! It's so cool to see it in context.



Another amazing thing is that these ultramodern masterpieces are a few blocks from quaint buildings from the 1700's and early 1800's on cobble stone streets. NY is superb!





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Old September 9th, 2006, 06:38 AM   #88
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That is a great flyby.

For those who believe that the new WTC towers should have been more similar and "cohesive", I invite you to look at Detroits' skyline and the effect the monolithic 6 tower "renaissance center" has on it. It overpowers the skyline and perfectly illustrates why having such a large bulk in one small area is a bad idea. Much better to have an interesting mass of beautiful towers that fit into the fabric of New York. Thankfully New York didn't make Detroit's mistake.[...]
I see your point but you also have a good example of four "cohesive" towers in front of ground zero-the World Financial Center.
And that's exactly why I think it wouldn't be a good ideia having another "family" in wtc.It would look monotonous and boring IMO.
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Old September 9th, 2006, 06:59 AM   #89
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Nice. I think the whole thing looks just fine.
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Old September 9th, 2006, 10:14 AM   #90
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Tower 2 is amazing.
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Old September 9th, 2006, 10:20 AM   #91
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The spire looks like a rat's tail here.
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Old September 9th, 2006, 10:25 AM   #92
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OMG!!! I love to see they rising up agian!
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Old September 9th, 2006, 12:17 PM   #93
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This is an international forum, and 'Feet' is an international mark. So we use feet.
eyyyyy men, the m is more international mark than feet, more million peoplo use m.
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Old September 9th, 2006, 01:04 PM   #94
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So yeah, just about everyone but the USA..

This project is looking good. But one thing, I wish that Towers 2-4 looked similar, otherwise it looks messed up.
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Old September 9th, 2006, 02:21 PM   #95
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British press reaction....

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An astounding architectural triumph
By Marcus Binney, Architecture Correspondent

THE reborn World Trade Center is an astounding triumph for European and Japanese architects. For a century after the skyscraper was invented in Chicago, the design of towers in the US was largely the preserve of American architects. Now, unexpectedly, the three new designs show Lords Foster and Rogers and Fumihiko Maki in turn adopting a very American all-glass sleekness, with smooth facades rising almost sheer from the pavement.
The engineering is not on show in the same way as in Lord Foster’s breathtaking early design, dubbed the kissing towers. It is nonetheless there, allowing all three architects to achieve minimalist grace on a stupendous scale.

In a very clever move the corners of the Rogers tower are column-free, allowing breathtaking panoramic views from the angles. The slanting top of the Foster tower gives each front a thrillingly different appearance seen to good advantage in long views.

Maki provides a more sedate but still majestic counterpoint.

The twin towers stood aloof and detached from the rest of the skyline, their squared form contrasting with the romantic silhouette of an earlier generation of skyscrapers. The new designs bring back an exotic element. They should offer stunning reflections of sky and clouds by day and look most magical at night.

Foster’s diamond tops potentially offer one of the best light shows in New York.

All three designs pay careful attention to the potent symbolism of the site and the strong feelings that it must offer a memorial to the dead, bringing solace to the many who mourn.
The FT spire IMO is poor and cheap attempt simply to stretch the height to a perceived 'symbolic' 1,776ft. It looks like its been simply plonked on the roof, unlike Libeskind's original - which actually looked to be a cohesive part of the building. I think the mix of styles work well - although Calatrava's station hub looks a little lost in between the Foster and Rodgers towers.
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Old September 10th, 2006, 12:01 AM   #96
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I have seen the designs, and none of them impress me, plus they would probably fit in better in Shanghai, HK, or Dubai than they would in NYC.
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Old September 10th, 2006, 07:56 AM   #97
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I have seen the designs, and none of them impress me, plus they would probably fit in better in Shanghai, HK, or Dubai than they would in NYC.
In my opinion, I think it's kinda cool that there is architecture influenced by other cities in this one (EX: Chicago, Hong Kong) Chicago itself is seeing a little NYC influence (EX: the spire on Trump Tower Chicago.)
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Old September 10th, 2006, 08:54 AM   #98
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It's cool how the Freedom Tower's height in feet is the same number as the year they signed the Declaration of Independence.
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Old September 10th, 2006, 10:15 AM   #99
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^ Coincidence or intentional?
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Old September 10th, 2006, 10:43 AM   #100
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nice renders...but im not a huge fan of the designs...especially the freedom tower, IMO, it looks kind of ugly...i think i like that building with four towers the best...
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