Cebú Heritage Watch

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[AmbutLang]

Bogo Church 1927

[Taga Bogo]

WOW had been looking for a picture of Bogo pre WWII church for so long. If the original is yours, would it be possible to ask for a better scan

Originally Posted by AmbutLang

Bogo Church 1927

[Sleepwalker]

Nice blog about Cebu's heritage: http://cebuheritage.net/

Busy ang mga heritage vanguards sa Cebu dah

Naa unta ko'y pangutana, ambot kung sakto ba ni...Sa wa pa ta masakop sa mga Katsila ba, ang atong mga kagikan kay ninggamit na ba og concepto sa kwarta para sa trading o barter trade pa?

Salamat daan.

[Ang_Bantayanon]

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker

Nice blog about Cebu's heritage: http://cebuheritage.net/

Busy ang mga heritage vanguards sa Cebu dah

Naa unta ko'y pangutana, ambot kung sakto ba ni...Sa wa pa ta masakop sa mga Katsila ba, ang atong mga kagikan kay ninggamit na ba og concepto sa kwarta para sa trading o barter trade pa?

Salamat daan.

Wala tay konsepto sa kwarta becuase our ancestors were into barter. But if you ask why do we have such a term as "way sapi" or "salapi" it was influenced by the Portuguese who were in Malacca. The word "salapi" comes from the Malay word "kahati" which is half of a toston or Portuguese peso.

In addition, in Bantayan, the word salapi still refers to 50 centavos but in Manila it means money.

[Parchie]

Originally Posted by Ang_Bantayanon

Wala tay konsepto sa kwarta becuase our ancestors were into barter. But if you ask why do we have such a term as "way sapi" or "salapi" it was influenced by the Portuguese who were in Malacca. The word "salapi" comes from the Malay word "kahati" which is half of a toston or Portuguese peso.

In addition, in Bantayan, the word salapi still refers to 50 centavos but in Manila it means money.

My uncle who happened to be separated from the family during WW2 managed to escape Cebu and sailed to the neighboring island of Negros (by sailboat) and married a Negrense. It was until the early 60's that my uncle came back to see his brothers in Cebu. I do remember my uncle talking about "salapi", meaning 50 centavos! I guess Cebuano-speaking people in Negros Oriental also say "salapi" --> 50 centavos!

[Taga Bogo]

Originally Posted by Ang_Bantayanon

Wala tay konsepto sa kwarta becuase our ancestors were into barter. But if you ask why do we have such a term as "way sapi" or "salapi" it was influenced by the Portuguese who were in Malacca. The word "salapi" comes from the Malay word "kahati" which is half of a toston or Portuguese peso.

In addition, in Bantayan, the word salapi still refers to 50 centavos but in Manila it means money.

Metal (Gold, Silver, Bronze, Copper etc...) as a medium of exchange became dominant with the Spanish Colonizers. Mainly Silver coins found itself dominantly used as was used with other Spanish colonies. Patterns for Philippine use were conceptualized as early as 1701 with Barillo (bronze) The first Philippine minted coin was the barilla (1766). This was followed by The Octavo, Quarto, Dos Quartos and Quatro Quarto (1771-1835). All were made from "cheap" metal copper or bronze.

These were "poor man's" money. The Spanish authorities just dumped cheap metals to Chinese craftsmen in the now Binondo area. There were no coin quality checks done during delivery. It is easy to find varieties as these were "hand made". One coin of the same denomination and year may vary in the Spanish Lion's tounge's length, the belly or the angle of the head. Some of the Chinese crafting can not read or write the alphabet. Coins such dated 9281 instead 1829 were in circulation. Some of the coins bore unreadable markings.

There is a claim that the button sized undated Silver quartello was specially minted for Philippine use.

Coins with marks Islas Filipinas
Silver coins minted
Isabel II bust from 1864-1868 - 10, 20, 50 centimos
Alfonso XII bust from 1880-1885 - 10, 20, 50 centimos
Alfonso XIII bust 1897 - Peso
Gold
Isabel II bust from 1861-1868 - peso, dos pesos, quatro pesos
Alfonso XII bust from 1880-1885 - Quatro Pesos

American Philadelphia and San Francisco mints produced the Philippime coins starting with the dated 1903 - 1c, 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c and 1 Peso.

The Cuion coins, 1913-1927 were minted in the US

Manila Mint started with the coins dated 1936.

The Philippine 1944-1945 coins were minted in the US

[Sleepwalker]

Originally Posted by Ang_Bantayanon

Wala tay konsepto sa kwarta becuase our ancestors were into barter. But if you ask why do we have such a term as "way sapi" or "salapi" it was influenced by the Portuguese who were in Malacca. The word "salapi" comes from the Malay word "kahati" which is half of a toston or Portuguese peso.

In addition, in Bantayan, the word salapi still refers to 50 centavos but in Manila it means money.

Daghan salamat, agawon...

[Ang_Bantayanon]

Originally Posted by Taga Bogo

Metal (Gold, Silver, Bronze, Copper etc...) as a medium of exchange became dominant with the Spanish Colonizers. Mainly Silver coins found itself dominantly used as was used with other Spanish colonies. Patterns for Philippine use were conceptualized as early as 1701 with Barillo (bronze) The first Philippine minted coin was the barilla (1766). This was followed by The Octavo, Quarto, Dos Quartos and Quatro Quarto (1771-1835). All were made from "cheap" metal copper or bronze.

These were "poor man's" money. The Spanish authorities just dumped cheap metals to Chinese craftsmen in the now Binondo area. There were no coin quality checks done during delivery. It is easy to find varieties as these were "hand made". One coin of the same denomination and year may vary in the Spanish Lion's tounge's length, the belly or the angle of the head. Some of the Chinese crafting can not read or write the alphabet. Coins such dated 9281 instead 1829 were in circulation. Some of the coins bore unreadable markings.

There is a claim that the button sized undated Silver quartello was specially minted for Philippine use.

Coins with marks Islas Filipinas
Silver coins minted
Isabel II bust from 1864-1868 - 10, 20, 50 centimos
Alfonso XII bust from 1880-1885 - 10, 20, 50 centimos
Alfonso XIII bust 1897 - Peso
Gold
Isabel II bust from 1861-1868 - peso, dos pesos, quatro pesos
Alfonso XII bust from 1880-1885 - Quatro Pesos

American Philadelphia and San Francisco mints produced the Philippime coins starting with the dated 1903 - 1c, 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c and 1 Peso.

The Cuion coins, 1913-1927 were minted in the US

Manila Mint started with the coins dated 1936.

The Philippine 1944-1945 coins were minted in the US

Thanks, Taga_Bogo. This is very informative. Karon pa ko nga hasta diay 1944-45 nga sinsilyo imported pa.

[Ang_Bantayanon]

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker

Daghan salamat, agawon...

Way sapayan, bossing.

[Taga Bogo]

Originally Posted by Ang_Bantayanon

Thanks, Taga_Bogo. This is very informative. Karon pa ko nga hasta diay 1944-45 nga sinsilyo imported pa.

This was the US's response in preparation for the eventual re-taking of the Philippine Islands. US wanted to set monetary standards to replace currency used in the Philippines during WWII (Japanes, Emergency, Guerilla, etc...) The 44 and 45 coins were minted before the Philippines was liberated.

[AmbutLang]

Originally Posted by Taga Bogo

WOW had been looking for a picture of Bogo pre WWII church for so long. If the original is yours, would it be possible to ask for a better scan

I took the pix from the fading family album also turning brown.

[emperorkarl]

Hi friends allow me to post a picture of Professor Dante Guidetti, the Italian architect and sculptor who resided in Cebu.



He was famous for his work in Vision Theater, Christ the King statue in Carcar, the funerary monument at the Osmena Mausoleum, etc.

He was also an architect and he designed the San Carlos Borromeo church (photo below) in San Carlos City, Negros Occidental. Thanks to sir Carlos Apuhin for confirming that the church is indeed the one in San Carlos City. Unfortunately this magnificent structure was heavily renovated in the 1970s thus losing its "European" look. This is how the church looks right now, http://www.experiencenegros.com/wp-c...san-carlos.jpg




There's a particular certification issued in 1938 (the year that he was gaining re-entry to Italy) by the Italian consulate in Manila that mentioned about him as an avid supporter of the Fascist idea but still I can't understand its meaning between the lines especially when taken in context with the other paragraphs.

The Italian dictator Benito Mussolini came to power from 1922 up to 1943. The professor went abroad from 1924 up to 1938 (one year in Singapore and thirteen years in the Philippines). He came back to Italy only to serve again in World War II. Was he trying to avoid something in Italy? Perhaps persecution from Mussolini?

Also it was mentioned in that certification that while he was in the Philippines, he tried to establish a "Fascio." What does fascio mean?

Anyway here is the article that I wrote about Dante Guidetti using all the raw information that I got,

http://cebuheritage.net/2012/08/17/d...er-and-teacher






.:.

[Taga Bogo]

Originally Posted by AmbutLang

I took the pix from the fading family album also turning brown.

Thanks for the info

Would it be possible to put the names of the people on the picture

[emperorkarl]

Happy 43rd Charter Day, Mandaue City, and happy 75th anniversary to the city hall building!

[Wind Shear]

Originally Posted by emperorkarl

Also it was mentioned in that certification that while he was in the Philippines, he tried to establish a "Fascio." What does fascio mean?

Given the context, it meant that he will establish a league or a group (probably a Fascist party) here in Philippines. Fascio is an Italian word for a league, figuratively.

[RIZALLON]

hope that i could also visit those places too.

[emperorkarl]

This certain Christy from the National Geographic Magazine had the gall to come to Cebu pretending that he was interested in buying ivory when in fact he had another sinister agenda on hand, like taking words out of context thus wrongfully accusing someone of being an illegal exporter of ivory.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...ous_ivory_news





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[Ang_Bantayanon]

Don't add to his injury by posting the link.
Be compassionate.

[Mercato]

Originally Posted by emperorkarl

Happy 43rd Charter Day, Mandaue City, and happy 75th anniversary to the city hall building!

Oh, what a lovely city. City of Dreams and handsome people like mercato.

Congratulations to us.