#Approved: 480 Queen Street- 70st/240m/mixed use (Part2)

CULWULLA · September 11th, 2006, 08:19 AM

since i merged threads its blown it to well over 500 posts. doh!
first thread>
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=370602
gerbilus got scoop today.
height-240m (250mAHD)
70 stories (80 above foundation)

site>
[img]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/redcross1.jpg[/img]

soulvisionq1 guessing comp>

ZACH24 is da winner!!! He had the closest bet of 240m Congrats! A trophy is now on its way to your door...

He's a shorty now...

riparian is actually taller! Theres always next year...

480m - marty_k
389m - Redress
324m - WestEnderBender
320m - Boeing747
315m - NewUrban
314m - Rivercity
310m - Locke
307m - SoulVision
305m - Proud_Melburnian
304m - gaystar aka ripcurl
301m - JayT
300m - Brissieroy
299m - KJBrissy/Meleager
297m - crawf_231
292m - Oriolus
290m - Malt
288m - Archibomber
283m - Brissy4me
280m - Hommus
279m - Wezza
277m - Orfeo
275m - Leesome
270m - cp1
265m - NCC1701D
264m - Brizbane2
261m - scottsimmons80
262m - Mants
260m - shrewd.user
257m - BrizzyChris
255m - nerazzurri
252m - Red Nut
250m - CULWULLA/UpThat
249m - Danubis
248m - drifter269
247m - FreedomCall
240m - zach24
230m - Maroon Grown
140m - defec8R
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original DA (198mHD or 188m above grd)

Locke · September 11th, 2006, 08:26 AM

240.5m!, don't forget the 0.5, that's what puts it ahead of 240.14m Empire Square (by 34 centimetres

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CULWULLA · September 11th, 2006, 08:35 AM

oops. sorry. so are both 250mAHD?

Boeing747 · September 11th, 2006, 08:44 AM

That's one ugly building.

SoulvisionQ1 · September 11th, 2006, 08:48 AM

I'm so glad they redesigned it! I can't can't wait for a render! AHHH

Locke · September 11th, 2006, 10:32 AM

Yeah both are exactly 250mAHD. Suffice to say the new masterplan obviously isn't in place yet since this and Empire Square and Emerald for that matter were all squished into 250m, thank the Lord for Vision.

We'll get confirmation on the height of 480 Queen Street no doubt once the pdf's are out but here are Gerbilus' throughts:

70 stories in total

approx 35 stories commerical/parking
the rest residential.

The top of building 250m AHD

The facade was reminiscent of Empire although it was clearely a larger building with larger footprint and presence. It was a similar colour as well

It was an attractive building, which certianly had a real presence, at a guess it has similar floorplate size to vision.

The render is really good, I actually prefer the look of this building to Vision.

***BrizzyChris*** · September 11th, 2006, 11:35 AM

Geez, and I thought my 257m was a conservative guess. JayT you bastard!

Locke · September 11th, 2006, 11:41 AM

I say we feather and tar him!:P

It's annoying though, at some stage for whatever reason this thing was cut down 60m, 240.5m is great, but when you knew it was going to be taller... the pain, oh the pain!

NewUrban · September 11th, 2006, 12:03 PM

Any chance this could be an Ernst & Young tower? I guess it is doubtful with one in Sydney, though I reckon just the sign there would help Brisbane gain an "international" feel.

brissieroy · September 11th, 2006, 12:13 PM

Happy we have another 200m + tallie, but disappointing we didnt get the 300m beast we all hoped for...theres always next time I guess, but where???

Locke · September 11th, 2006, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brissieroy

Happy we have another 200m + tallie, but disappointing we didnt get the 300m beast we all hoped for...theres always next time I guess, but where???

Eagle Street Pier - Rumour is an 80+ floor mixed use tower, maybe 2 towers. Leases run out soon 2006-2007?, has been in the works for a while apparently, so one to watch.

brissieroy · September 11th, 2006, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locke

Eagle Street Pier - Rumour is an 80+ floor mixed use tower, maybe 2 towers. Leases run out soon 2006-2007?, has been in the works for a while apparently, so one to watch.

Locke - I have heard the 80 floor story before and they just get our hopes up, but I hope you are right. God i hope so....once Eagle St Pier is gone as far as i know there is no other site that could accommodate a 300m tallie without having to amalgamate it first....

Locke · September 11th, 2006, 12:40 PM

Yep, well I know what you mean, I'm pretty annoyed as well, obviously having to be impact assessed and getting CASA clearance puts some developers off who would otherwise have gone much taller. Did you know Emerald originally wanted to go wayyyy taller for instance.

480 Queen, Empire Square and Emerald were all designed to be taller but were slotted into 250m. So that is the main issue, it's a bit of hassle to break through that cos of stupid impact assessment and CASA. The new city plan changes will get rid of impact assessment, that is a big hurdle removed, and provided Vision goes ahead at full height of 290m, CASA also be diminished as a potential issue. Then I think you will see more tallies.

So my prediction is 300m towers will be easier to come by as of next year. Still, I'm pretty annoyed all the same.

Will say this much, ain't no underground parking likely on the Eagle Street Pier site at least!

KJBrissy · September 11th, 2006, 01:27 PM

APH could just be doing an Austcorp...Get an approval for 250m AHD and then submit taller DA's!

***BrizzyChris*** · September 12th, 2006, 03:08 AM

DA Application page. Just so someone can keep checking.

WestEnderBender · September 12th, 2006, 05:38 AM

Still nothing... Has anybody else apart from Gerbilus seen the DA?

Brizbane2 · September 12th, 2006, 05:46 AM

From memory it took a week for Empire to be uploaded to net after it was lodged for DA.

So no use hanging by the computer, it could be days yet. So go outside get some sun, kick a footy, eat an orange, take up a musical instrument etc...

gerbilus · September 12th, 2006, 06:39 AM

In general the standard practice is to have a DA scanned for upload to website within 72 (business) hours after submission.

Given that it was submitted on Friday we would expect it by Wednesday. (actually when I saw the application (lunchtime on Monday) they said hopefully Tuesday).

However it is a very big application and things are busy so who knows....

Malt · September 12th, 2006, 09:29 AM

I noticed i went to the counter and asked to see it, they tried to direct me to the computers, but i informed them I was after a DA not yet on there, and the bastard then says to me "We dont keep hard copies here, havnt for years"

Now I have been in, within the last year, and viewed a hard copy. So this bastard is a lazy son of a bitch.

***BrizzyChris*** · September 12th, 2006, 10:36 AM

Just ask to see his manager next time. People like that shouldn't be in positions with human interaction.

September 11th, 2006, 08:19 AM	#1
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 30	#Approved: 480 Queen Street- 70st/240m/mixed use (Part2) since i merged threads its blown it to well over 500 posts. doh! first thread> http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=370602 gerbilus got scoop today. height-240m (250mAHD) 70 stories (80 above foundation) site> [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/danubiis/redcross1.jpg[/img] soulvisionq1 guessing comp> ZACH24 is da winner!!! He had the closest bet of 240m Congrats! A trophy is now on its way to your door... He's a shorty now... riparian is actually taller! Theres always next year... 480m - marty_k 389m - Redress 324m - WestEnderBender 320m - Boeing747 315m - NewUrban 314m - Rivercity 310m - Locke 307m - SoulVision 305m - Proud_Melburnian 304m - gaystar aka ripcurl 301m - JayT 300m - Brissieroy 299m - KJBrissy/Meleager 297m - crawf_231 292m - Oriolus 290m - Malt 288m - Archibomber 283m - Brissy4me 280m - Hommus 279m - Wezza 277m - Orfeo 275m - Leesome 270m - cp1 265m - NCC1701D 264m - Brizbane2 261m - scottsimmons80 262m - Mants 260m - shrewd.user 257m - BrizzyChris 255m - nerazzurri 252m - Red Nut 250m - CULWULLA/UpThat 249m - Danubis 248m - drifter269 247m - FreedomCall 240m - zach24 230m - Maroon Grown 140m - defec8R ------------ original DA (198mHD or 188m above grd) __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

September 11th, 2006, 08:26 AM	#2
Locke alright, kick-ass Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,367 Likes (Received): 180	240.5m!, don't forget the 0.5, that's what puts it ahead of 240.14m Empire Square (by 34 centimetres) __________________ You had me at meat tornado.

September 11th, 2006, 08:35 AM	#3
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 30	oops. sorry. so are both 250mAHD? __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

September 11th, 2006, 08:48 AM	#5
SoulvisionQ1 New Urbanist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 4,144 Likes (Received): 33	I'm so glad they redesigned it! I can't can't wait for a render! AHHH __________________ Brisbane's dedicated development news site: BrisbaneDevelopment.com Follow BD Online on twitter

September 11th, 2006, 10:32 AM	#6
Locke alright, kick-ass Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,367 Likes (Received): 180	Yeah both are exactly 250mAHD. Suffice to say the new masterplan obviously isn't in place yet since this and Empire Square and Emerald for that matter were all squished into 250m, thank the Lord for Vision. We'll get confirmation on the height of 480 Queen Street no doubt once the pdf's are out but here are Gerbilus' throughts: 70 stories in total approx 35 stories commerical/parking the rest residential. The top of building 250m AHD The facade was reminiscent of Empire although it was clearely a larger building with larger footprint and presence. It was a similar colour as well It was an attractive building, which certianly had a real presence, at a guess it has similar floorplate size to vision. The render is really good, I actually prefer the look of this building to Vision. __________________ You had me at meat tornado. Last edited by Locke; September 11th, 2006 at 11:32 AM.

September 11th, 2006, 08:44 AM	#4
Boeing747 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Adelaide SA Posts: 397 Likes (Received): 0	That's one ugly building.

September 11th, 2006, 11:35 AM	#7
*BrizzyChris* Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,015 Likes (Received): 99	Geez, and I thought my 257m was a conservative guess. JayT you bastard!

September 11th, 2006, 11:41 AM	#8
Locke alright, kick-ass Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,367 Likes (Received): 180	I say we feather and tar him!:P It's annoying though, at some stage for whatever reason this thing was cut down 60m, 240.5m is great, but when you knew it was going to be taller... the pain, oh the pain! __________________ You had me at meat tornado.

September 11th, 2006, 12:03 PM	#9
NewUrban Be Part of the Solution Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 252 Likes (Received): 0	Any chance this could be an Ernst & Young tower? I guess it is doubtful with one in Sydney, though I reckon just the sign there would help Brisbane gain an "international" feel. __________________ One thing is clear - It is all happening in the city: apartments, scooters, café bars, live/work loft space. The urban renaissance has opened the door for a generation of café-dwelling, scooter-riding, European-city-breaking out of a diverse population to live the urban lifestyle without needing to be a stock exchange high flyer. Has no one ever heard of regeneration chic? Suburbia is so 20th Century.

September 11th, 2006, 12:13 PM	#10
brissieroy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 253 Likes (Received): 3	Happy we have another 200m + tallie, but disappointing we didnt get the 300m beast we all hoped for...theres always next time I guess, but where???

September 11th, 2006, 12:40 PM	#13
Locke alright, kick-ass Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,367 Likes (Received): 180	Yep, well I know what you mean, I'm pretty annoyed as well, obviously having to be impact assessed and getting CASA clearance puts some developers off who would otherwise have gone much taller. Did you know Emerald originally wanted to go wayyyy taller for instance. 480 Queen, Empire Square and Emerald were all designed to be taller but were slotted into 250m. So that is the main issue, it's a bit of hassle to break through that cos of stupid impact assessment and CASA. The new city plan changes will get rid of impact assessment, that is a big hurdle removed, and provided Vision goes ahead at full height of 290m, CASA also be diminished as a potential issue. Then I think you will see more tallies. So my prediction is 300m towers will be easier to come by as of next year. Still, I'm pretty annoyed all the same. Will say this much, ain't no underground parking likely on the Eagle Street Pier site at least! __________________ You had me at meat tornado.

September 11th, 2006, 01:27 PM	#14
KJBrissy ........... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,331 Likes (Received): 130	APH could just be doing an Austcorp...Get an approval for 250m AHD and then submit taller DA's!

September 12th, 2006, 03:08 AM	#15
*BrizzyChris* Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,015 Likes (Received): 99	DA Application page. Just so someone can keep checking.

September 12th, 2006, 05:38 AM	#16
WestEnderBender Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 749 Likes (Received): 7	Still nothing... Has anybody else apart from Gerbilus seen the DA?

September 12th, 2006, 05:46 AM	#17
Brizbane2 Jesus is Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 438 Likes (Received): 0	From memory it took a week for Empire to be uploaded to net after it was lodged for DA. So no use hanging by the computer, it could be days yet. So go outside get some sun, kick a footy, eat an orange, take up a musical instrument etc... __________________ Brisbane's future lies here --> http://www.geocities.com/brisbane_au...l/3DModel.html

September 12th, 2006, 06:39 AM	#18
gerbilus Dinosaur Planner Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South East Queensland Posts: 218 Likes (Received): 0	In general the standard practice is to have a DA scanned for upload to website within 72 (business) hours after submission. Given that it was submitted on Friday we would expect it by Wednesday. (actually when I saw the application (lunchtime on Monday) they said hopefully Tuesday). However it is a very big application and things are busy so who knows.... __________________ As Fred Daly once said of Menzies: "[He] set out to do nothing, took a long time to do it and did it pretty well." "It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea." Robert Anson Wilson

September 12th, 2006, 09:29 AM	#19
Malt Its a sleepy little town Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Emerald Posts: 3,516 Likes (Received): 9	I noticed i went to the counter and asked to see it, they tried to direct me to the computers, but i informed them I was after a DA not yet on there, and the bastard then says to me "We dont keep hard copies here, havnt for years" Now I have been in, within the last year, and viewed a hard copy. So this bastard is a lazy son of a bitch.

September 12th, 2006, 10:36 AM	#20
*BrizzyChris* Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,015 Likes (Received): 99	Just ask to see his manager next time. People like that shouldn't be in positions with human interaction.

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