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Old December 2nd, 2013, 10:07 PM   #301
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Can someone explain why Medaglie d'Oro-Salvator Rosa section was built like that? Was it a mistake or was relied on geology?
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 10:24 PM   #302
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There is a large elevation gain between those two spots.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 11:47 PM   #303
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Is there a direct underpass link between 1 and 2 lines in Piazza Garibaldi ?
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 12:22 AM   #304
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Well, not really there is about 4.5km long part that is above ground. Past Colli Aminei the line is no more under the ground.
3 stations: Frullone, Chiaiano and Piscinola are on the surface/elevated.
On the Vomero side you mean, but the new path that will be constructed (Piscinola - Capodichino - Garibaldi sector) will be underground.

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If I recall correctly Centro Direzionale already has a second platform beneath the exisitng one of Circumvesuviana. Must have been built in the 70s something. WIll Municipio be designed as a transfer station to linea 6?

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Is there a direct underpass link between 1 and 2 lines in Piazza Garibaldi ?
Yes, it will be completed in the next months
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 01:01 PM   #305
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here you can see the line as it is conceived, as a circle line

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and here:
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you can see the current situation.
Municipio and Duomo are still under construction, although part of the regular line in operation. It will take at least another year for Municipio, and at least 2 for Duomo.
Within a month will have to begin the construction sites from Garibaldi to the airport (Garibaldi-Centro Direzionale-Aeroporto).
The constructions of the stations you can see -in the final project- between Piscinola and the airport had already started but were interrupted. If the funds -already existing, but have been blocked for political reasons - were unlocked for that fraction, the first station (Miano) would be ready within a year.
My english is quite sub-standard, so I'm sorry for any mistakes.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 01:21 PM   #306
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Vi mostro alcuni servizi dell'inaugurazione della Stazione Garibaldi. Il servizio del TGR delle 14:00.


Il servizio del TGR delle 19:00.


Ed il servizio del VG21 realizzato dalla nostra Spuzza.

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Old December 4th, 2013, 02:59 PM   #307
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No, you are getting me wrong.

The city surely needs subway, and I think subways are a good use for EU funds indeed (instead of busways or street mixed-traffic trams).

I'm all for building more subway there, and also upgrading the Circumvesuviana to modern standards.

I just think (only this) the finishing of stations is a bit over-the-top. Maybe too luxurious for a functional structure, though it inevitably looks great (no denying on that).
Don't know about Italy, but 1520 mm subways are well known for seemingly expensive décors, but with exception of some early 50s stations, all that décor never costed more than 2-4% of station cost (tunnels not incl.) - the most money goes to excavation, concrete, power supply, etc.
Modern technologies allows us to build décor that looks fancy and expensive, but actually is not.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 03:09 PM   #308
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The ostentation of Napoli subway over-the-top aesthetic enhancement/decor is totally out of place with the current economic climate in Italy.
You think so? You know for sure that this design is more expensive than the very poor one of the new metro line in Milan?

I think that beautiful design is always welcome, especially in a city like Naples, which is craving a better reputation.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 03:34 PM   #309
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That would certainly be worthwhile. Those trains are pretty decrepit for European standards. Running trains later in the evening would be a good idea as well. We almost got stuck in Sorrento earlier this year because of it. It was our own fault for not looking up the schedule beforehand, but still…
Circumvesuviana has a great tourism potential (to transport tourists, not as heritage line), as it connects Napoli with famous places like Sorrento, Ercolano, the Vesuvio park (volcano) and Pompei.

The network is quite larg-ish as suburban networks go in Italy.

However, Circumvesuviana trains are often scary, dingy and outright dangerous (for passenger experience, not in terms of circulation safety).

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Old December 4th, 2013, 06:07 PM   #310
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But those trains are not so old, some of them were built in the 1990s.
Also many station (even the new ones) are quite decrepit, due to the lack of maintenance.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 12:40 AM   #311
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Dingy I understand, but what is it that makes them scary and dangerous?
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Old December 5th, 2013, 10:14 AM   #312
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But those trains are not so old, some of them were built in the 1990s.
Also many station (even the new ones) are quite decrepit, due to the lack of maintenance.
uhm... if we talk of this ETR (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elettro...SM_ETR_001-118), the 90% was built between '70 and '80. for this etr, a very small percentage was built in '90 (at least as far as i know).
instead about this "new" ETR (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elettro...SM_ETR_201-226) (over to say that it was the worst train that i ever seen)
it is used in very few times

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Old December 5th, 2013, 01:29 PM   #313
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When I visited Naples and its surrounding in July 2003, I had noticed well the contrast between the metro line A (clean, very beautiful) and the Circumvesuviana (trains full of graffiti).
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Old December 5th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #314
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instead about this "new" ETR (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elettro...SM_ETR_201-226) (over to say that it was the worst train that i ever seen)
Are those new AnsaldoBreda trains really bad?
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Old December 5th, 2013, 06:03 PM   #315
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Are those new AnsaldoBreda trains really bad?
This is my opinion of course. I am referring not to its quality (I don't think there are comparisons to be able to do), but to its functionality.
Forgetting factor of modernity, sustainability and many other beautiful "cool" things, I prefer the old trains, at least you can breathe in them.
I find the new trains very cramped, poorly lit, and, in my opinion, uncomfortable for those who are foot

Obviously, however, we speak of, about, 30 years of difference... and the difference is noticeable
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Old December 5th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #316
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That's the same for many products made by AB...
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Old December 6th, 2013, 02:17 AM   #317
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French TV on the new Garibaldi station and the subway of Naples:

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Old December 6th, 2013, 02:39 AM   #318
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The architecture is really nice, but the new station will also be very important for the urban transport, linking the central station with the downtown and the rest of the line.
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Old December 6th, 2013, 03:25 AM   #319
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The ostentation of Napoli subway over-the-top aesthetic enhancement/decor is totally out of place with the current economic climate in Italy.
Funny your fancying the network too dolled up, coz the image you aim arrows toward reveals a ˝-done metro station.
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Old December 6th, 2013, 03:45 PM   #320
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