Subway Thread

[WestSidersGirl]

Originally Posted by Sarcasticity

Most New York subways are relatively clean imo. It's just that they look very gritty. Chipped paint, awful bathroom tiles , and dirt and grime on posts. But it's not like trash is everywhere. Some stations are dirtier than the other but from what I see, NYC subways aren't bad. However, they need to deal with homeless people taking rides and making the subway their home.

that one I bold out is a serious problem indeed..been encountered every time I take 2 and 7 train..those homeless people even dared to used the whole seats for their sleeping time..jeez..

as for the subway train itself, I guess it depends on which train you are getting..the subway stations are okay but not everyone of them are particularly clean.

[trainrover]

Dared? Sleeping time? Is your sidedness that simple?

Originally Posted by Sarcasticity

they need to deal with homeless people

Who they? Or must social work truly be an additional mandate of the MTA's?

You know, most western visiters hailing from overseas leave Canadian cities in sheer disbelief from observing a wealthy country shunning, abandoning its homeless people ...

[flapane]

Originally Posted by trainrover

You know, most western visiters hailing from overseas leave Canadian cities in sheer disbelief from observing a wealthy country shunning, abandoning its homeless people ...

i.e Those sleeping on the benches in front of Toronto City Hall.

[Sarcasticity]

Originally Posted by trainrover

Dared? Sleeping time? Is your sidedness that simple?




Who they? Or must social work truly be an additional mandate of the MTA's?

You know, most western visiters hailing from overseas leave Canadian cities in sheer disbelief from observing a wealthy country shunning, abandoning its homeless people ...

Ofcourse, I don't mean to disrespect with my post. I empathize with the poor. Ofcourse it's not in MTAs hands, but I do hope there's something to be done with the number of them in NYC subways.

[trainrover]

It's the shortsightedness that I find glaring, not so much the disrespect: Homelessness happens no matter where it occurs! It also happens to have been blighting inner-city station benches around my metro for at least a year now. We passengers not being able to wait for our trains comfortably seated merely reminds me of the empty arguments for hollowing out our municipal, provincial and federal authorities' responsibilities. Casting blame onto the poor sods sprawled across the seats in the stations would be dismissive, too easy ...

[Hudson11]

crane collapse at the no. 7 extension... one dead

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/04/ny...west-side.html

The man who was killed was identified by relatives as Michael Simermeyer of New Jersey.

The Metropolitan Transportation, which suspended work at the accident site, said the crane was owned and operated by Yonkers Contracting Company. The agency also said that it was inspecting cranes being used at all M.T.A. construction sites.

[Minnesota Twin]

Originally Posted by Hudson11

crane collapse at the no. 7 extension... one dead

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/04/ny...west-side.html

Very sad for this loss of life. My condolences to the man's grieving family.

[Minnesota Twin]

Anyone know how the Second Ave. Subway construction is going? I had a look at the MTA website and got some information, but I was wondering if there were other websites that were covering this with photos, maps, 3D diagrams of stations, etc.

Thanks.

[Cal_Escapee]

I read back a few pages and didn't see anything about San Francisco's crosstown subway project so I'll tell a little about it. Most of San Francisco's existing LRV lines begin downtown as subways under Market St. and branch out into surface lines as they leave the city center. But they essentially carry people from the downtown out into the residential neighborhoods. As the downtown financial district has expanded to the south, however, a need has developed to carry people across the downtown area, essentially on the route of what has been the 30 Stockton St. bus line. To meet this need, the city is building a subway extension of the T-Third LRV line from Mission Bay to Chinatown:


Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BANK1N96DQ.DTL

Work has been active rerouting underground utilities for about 2 years now. Recently contracts went out for purchase of tunnel boring machines and construction should soon begin on the "launch box" which is the portal into which the tunnel borers will be placed to begin their work.

Construction photos on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/municentralsubway/

This is the design for the above ground portion of the Chinatown Station:


http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...e_renderi.html

This is the above ground view of the entrance to the Union Square Station:


http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...e_renderi.html

[Cal_Escapee]

Originally Posted by trainrover

most western visiters hailing from overseas leave Canadian cities in sheer disbelief from observing a wealthy country shunning, abandoning its homeless people ...

The presence of homeless people sleeping on subways and in other public places does not mean they are "abandoned". My city, San Francisco, spends over $188 million a year on homeless services ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_475603.html ) and has built, by one count, 3,741 "supportive" housing units for them as of 2011 ( http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/2011...-city-spending ), yet in my decades of living here I've only seen the problem get worse. My conclusion is that a substantial portion of the so-called "homeless" are simply mentally ill or severely substance abusing people that the city, which prides itself on being "compassionate"--which it interprets to mean letting almost everyone live as they please including the mentally ill--simply refuses to compel them to get off the streets, out of doorways, off transit vehicles and generally out of our hair and into the places bought and paid for for them.

[desertpunk]

Homeless people became very noticeable on the streets and subways after the 1970s because psychiatric hospitals and asylums that housed them before were being closed. Many of the homeless today are tragic victims of the Community Mental Health Act that promoted "integration" of virtually all the mentally ill within society. That high-minded exercise has turned the streets into housing and the jails into treatment centers since states and communities have little interest in spending the huge sums to truly address these issues (they're spending a lot anyway).

[primus20]

Originally Posted by Minnesota Twin

Anyone know how the Second Ave. Subway construction is going? I had a look at the MTA website and got some information, but I was wondering if there were other websites that were covering this with photos, maps, 3D diagrams of stations, etc.

Thanks.

you can found a lot of things at the mta page when you look exactly

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/sas/documents.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/

[desertpunk]

1.6 Billion Rode The Subways In 2011: MTA

[Minnesota Twin]

Originally Posted by primus20

you can found a lot of things at the mta page when you look exactly

http://www.mta.info/capconstr/sas/documents.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/

Thanks. I found your links very informative.

[yankeesfan1000]

Not sure where else to post this, but since Chris Christie killed the ARC project, and since we recently found out that the 7 Train won't be extended to NJ in our lifetime, it seems that the Gateway Project is the only project left on the table to expand commuter rail between NJ and NYC. DOT head Ray LaHood is a big supporter of the project which bodes well, but what are the chances that it actually gets built?

[desertpunk]

The Surprising Return Of The X Line Subway

To the surprise of the idea’s originators, Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer earlier this month unearthed a dusty old proposal for a new subway line that would serve the outer boroughs.

“The X Line would connect all but three subway lines in the city and join Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx, which no other line does today,” said Stringer, speaking to a room full of New York establishment types at a breakfast hosted by the Association for a Better New York.

“Here’s why it’s not a pipe dream: The line is built entirely along existing rights of way,” said Stringer. “That means no tunneling, which is the biggest hurdle in this day and age to building new subways.”

[...]

[Uaarkson]

Sweet! That would be a major advantage to Brooklyn especially.

[canaris]

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[desertpunk]

Ventilation facility is rising: Site L (Dyer & 41st St, behind MiMA)

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