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Old December 16th, 2005, 04:54 AM   #181
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468 stations counting transfer stations as one or one for each line? Any way this is the mothership of all subways and metros in the world!
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Old December 16th, 2005, 08:32 AM   #182
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Whoa, that is insane. Wonder if there's anything like that for Tokyo...
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Old December 16th, 2005, 08:44 AM   #183
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that is very impressive. Im amazing what people are been able to do with Google maps (my favorite is free wifi locator). Thats not a hack though, actually very legal and google like mods like this that use their software.
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Old December 16th, 2005, 10:20 AM   #184
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hehe, doesn't always work, I set two different places and it suggested the quickest way was to walk for 49hours, I'll try and post a screenshot
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Old December 16th, 2005, 07:23 PM   #185
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Great stats. How about posting similar stats of "rival" subways?
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Old December 17th, 2005, 12:39 AM   #186
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ohlala.. good to know thanks
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Old December 17th, 2005, 01:23 AM   #187
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Nice
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Old December 17th, 2005, 08:14 AM   #188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frungy
Whoa, that is insane. Wonder if there's anything like that for Tokyo...
Yep.

There's the Japan traffic guide.It covers all subways,train routes,bus and plane routes from the top of the country to the botton.It operates on two websites.One for Mobile phones and the other for computers.It even tells you how long it will take walking between stations if you have to transfer.

Here's the computer version

http://www.jorudan.co.jp/english/norikae/
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Old December 17th, 2005, 08:23 AM   #189
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Whoa, that is insane. Wonder if there's anything like that for Tokyo...
Similar services have been available since several years ago...
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Old December 17th, 2005, 11:18 AM   #190
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Walking times aren't very well modeled.
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Old December 17th, 2005, 03:20 PM   #191
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That system exists since at least a decade in Paris. I remember we used to have that kind of little route planner thing in subway stations when I was a kid, I was playing with them trying to find the route needing the most interconnections or the longest routes.

You can have access to Paris route planner, via internet, in english, on RATP's official website :
Paris public transport route planner
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Old December 17th, 2005, 03:32 PM   #192
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Some newspapers have been reporting about this route planner lately and I don't understand why. In Bavaria (biggest German state) there has been a much more advanced system for years now. Check it out:
http://195.30.232.155/bay/index_en.htm
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Old December 17th, 2005, 03:39 PM   #193
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South-East Queensland has had that for train/ferry/bus for many years now.

Its really handy.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 04:31 PM   #194
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New York Transit on strike

So the labor union failed to negotiate an extension of their contract with the city... so they went on strike. All subways and buses shut down, and Metro-North commuter rail may follow suit.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/20/nyc.transit/index.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/20/ny...rtner=homepage

Do you sympathize with them, or think they are selfish and holding the city hostage? Living in Japan, I'm spoiled by impeccable transit service... not just efficiency, but the staff is incredibly helpful and polite. Unlike New York service, where it doesn't seem like bus and train drivers even know what a schedule is, the token vendors are too busy chatting on phones to actually sell you tokens, and the vending machines are perpetually broken.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 04:36 PM   #195
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Yeah, just read it from local media. Frist strike since 1980, huh? We have subway strikes in São Paulo every year. How much does a subway driver make?
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Old December 20th, 2005, 04:36 PM   #196
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first off, you are rattling stereotypes in the last sentence. I have not experienced those problems to the degree that you are suggesting. just about the same as any mediocre (when compared to Japan) Western transit system.

that being said, I am pissed beyond belief. They are holding the city hostage selfishly. The people that will be hurt the hardest will be those that do not have cushy union jobs to sit their fat asses on.

They need to be made to pay severly for their insolence.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 05:02 PM   #197
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Implement some of those Japanese robots you've got there to operate all trains.
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Old December 20th, 2005, 05:04 PM   #198
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I'm rattling personal experiences. Yes, there were some exceptions where I got good service, but I'd say 3/4 of all token vending machines I've encountered were broken, many conductors don't even bother saying what the next station is or what side the doors will open on, and all too often no bus arrives for half an hour, then 4 in a row come along (in light traffic).

I think I read in a CNN article that the transit workers make from 47-55k per year. Yeah, the cost of living in New York is high but that's pretty damn nice. They also want to be able to collect full pensions if they retire at age 55 (the MTA wants to raise it to 62), and the MTA wants workers to pay 6 percent of their salary for the first 10 years of work towards their pensions (currently 2 percent).
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Old December 20th, 2005, 07:02 PM   #199
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I am so screwed........
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Old December 20th, 2005, 07:05 PM   #200
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damn this is a shame. up to $400 million a day lost! i hope the situation is resolved QUICKLY.

i read in an article that MTA workers get no respect... is this true?
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