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Old November 1st, 2012, 07:12 PM   #2021
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NY Subway - everyone gets a free ride today and tomorrow.

http://transportationnation.org/2012...need-patience/


But once you reach the end of the line in Brooklyn, there will be a very crowded bus to take you the rest of the way to Manhattan.

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Old November 2nd, 2012, 08:52 AM   #2022
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:57 AM   #2023
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Just out of curiousity, has the subway ever flooded before?
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 02:52 PM   #2024
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 03:15 PM   #2025
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Did MTA estimate the total repair cost?
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 05:38 PM   #2026
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How is MTA going to pay for all the repairs? I thought its finances were already in bad shape.

I wonder how the Second Avenue line fared.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 06:26 PM   #2027
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How is MTA going to pay for all the repairs? I thought its finances were already in bad shape.

I wonder how the Second Avenue line fared.
More than likely through FEMA

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Old November 3rd, 2012, 01:51 AM   #2028
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How is MTA going to pay for all the repairs? I thought its finances were already in bad shape.

I wonder how the Second Avenue line fared.
https://twitter.com/thetrough/status/264160368245485568
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 07:25 AM   #2029
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Wow, will it be possible to repair the subway system by the new year? Aside from the tunnels themselves virtually everything has been gutted.
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 08:01 AM   #2030
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New York City Transit employees are pumping water out of the Cranberry Street Tunnel, which carries the A and C trains between Brooklyn and Manhattan underneath the East River

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06.Water in Cranberry Tube on A & C Line por MTAPhotos, en Flickr

Pump Train Siphoning out Tube

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Inside Pump Train

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Previous Water Line at Cranberry Tube

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6 Ft. Water Line on Building across from South Street Sea Port

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Old November 3rd, 2012, 04:15 PM   #2031
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I wonder how come the windows didnt break under the pressure of water!
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 05:51 PM   #2032
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Just out of curiousity, has the subway ever flooded before?
The system has been flooded before, but this is clearly the worst ever.

Below is an article from 2010.
http://www.ny1.com/content/news_beat...-subway-pumps/

And an MTA report from 2007
http://mta.info/mta/pdf/storm_report_2007.pdf
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 11:24 PM   #2033
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I wonder how come the windows didnt break under the pressure of water!
They probably put OSB boards over the windows.
It protects against the pressure of the water, however some of it will of course sip trough and color the window panes.

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Old November 4th, 2012, 03:29 AM   #2034
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The A Train bridge to the Rockaways was heavily damaged during Hurricane Sandy. This photo shows early repair work underway as of November 3, 2012.

Contractors Removing Damaged Fencing in the Rockaway’s

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The South Ferry subway station was damaged by seawater flooding during Hurricane Sandy. Crews are working to restore the station by pumping out the seawater.

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Old November 9th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #2035
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clickable WNYC 90.3FM AM820: Radio station's ongoing errrr tracking...
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Old November 10th, 2012, 05:50 AM   #2036
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That blinking map made no sense to me. I'm old ... so I did find this...service is nearly normal.....amazing!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2101634.html

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Less than two weeks after Hurricane Sandy inflicted the worst damage on the New York City subway system in its entire 108-year history, trains are running close to normal in what observers are calling nothing short of a miracle.

The storm surge that flooded seven of 14 subway tunnels, submerged station platforms and destroyed underground equipment at first threatened to paralyze commuter transportation indefinitely. Yet 80 percent of the subway system was restored in less than a week and nearly all of its 842 miles of track are back on line.

“Some of what they’re doing borders on the edge of magic,” Gene Russianoff of the commuter advocacy group Straphangers Campaign told the New York Times.

New York media outlets have marveled at the quick restoration of service. As the Times noted, "nearly everything under the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s auspices, from its commuter railroads to its bridges and tunnels, is running close to normal."

But not all. A bridge to the hard-hit Rockaways may take months to rebuild. And the return to normalcy hasn't exactly been normal -- trains have been jammed and long lines have plagued a makeshift Brooklyn-Manhattan bus bridge .

Still, the city is in better shape than outlying areas. PATH train service between Hoboken, N.J. and Manhattan, for instance, remains only partially restored.

While the recovery has gone smoother than expected, there have been bumps, some of them rhetorical.

On Friday, MTA Chairman Joseph Lhota, the government official who has worked around the clock to get trains back on the track, apologized to Mayor Mike Bloomberg for using profanity in saying Hizzoner acted like an "idiot" in publicly predicting when the Queens-Midtown Tunnel would reopen to commuter traffic.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 06:25 AM   #2037
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Good Gif

Now almost of all the system has been recovered. Only that part of Rockaways, some stations of Lower Manhattan, that leg of the N train to Coney Island remains to be reopen, along with the R train tunnel, that may be the most important part that is still out of service.
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So it took much less than it was said before. It's actually pretty fast recovery of the system.
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Old November 11th, 2012, 04:02 AM   #2039
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Now almost of all the system has been recovered. Only that part of Rockaways, some stations of Lower Manhattan, that leg of the N train to Coney Island remains to be reopen, along with the R train tunnel, that may be the most important part that is still out of service.
As they wrote before, intervals are every 10minutes. That means that the system work below the needed capacity. Good thing is that the most of lines are 4 track lines, and it is possible to work on 2 tracks while other 2 are used.

I don't know all facts about demage, but I expect problems with signal and safety system and with power substations. Both is needed for high frequency of trains. Another problem is capacity of industry to produce spare parts for replacing all demaged equipment. And, of course, problem about money, budget for restoring the subway. Subway isn't the only thing which has huge demage.
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Old November 11th, 2012, 12:16 PM   #2040
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News has been reporting that the MTA warehouses were/are quite well stocked, so replacements aren't as problematic as you think ... their robust inventory explains how come the subway's back in service quicker than what had been supposed by most experts
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