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Old April 6th, 2013, 07:12 AM   #2181
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OMG! And I thought that Chambers St - Line J was horrendous! Bowery is even worse! :/
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Old April 8th, 2013, 06:23 PM   #2182
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The Old South Ferry video:
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Old April 9th, 2013, 09:19 AM   #2183
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Don't forget that M and E trains both run under 53rd Street east of 6th Avenue.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 11:26 AM   #2184
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Yes, I missed that.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:06 PM   #2185
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Old South Ferry (trains arriving/departing the loop & tour of the station, including the newer concourse and Whitehall St connection).

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Old April 12th, 2013, 01:28 AM   #2186
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Second Avenue Subway | 86th Street Station

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Construction continues on the Second Avenue Subway's future 86th Street Station. This photo shows the latest progress as of April 2013.

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Plan to extend No. 7 subway from NYC to New Jersey could be back on track
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...ity_subwa.html
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Old April 13th, 2013, 01:15 AM   #2189
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Plan to extend No. 7 subway from NYC to New Jersey could be back on track
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...ity_subwa.html
Its already dead again , and should stay dead as it wouldn't fix the problem like the Gateway Plan.
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Its already dead again , and should stay dead as it wouldn't fix the problem like the Gateway Plan.
No it's not, learn how to read...

Study backs New York Subway Jersey extension

A new study for New York Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) has concluded that extending the 7 Subway beneath the Hudson River from Manhattan to New Jersey is viable, less than a year after the project was dismissed by the then MTA chairman Mr Joe Lhota.

The No. 7 Secaucus Extension Feasibility Analysis Final Report, carried out by Parsons Brinckerhoff, states: "The extension of the No. 7 Subway would result in the first trans-Hudson tunnel connection that would provide direct rail access from New Jersey, not only to the West Side of Manhattan, but also to the East Side and multiple locations in Queens. It would provide needed capacity across the Hudson River and advance the broader goal of enhancing regional connectivity."

According to the report, the project meets many of the objectives of the Access to the Region's Core (ARC) commuter rail tunnel cancelled in October 2010 and would help to accommodate sustained growth in trans-Hudson traffic, which is forecast to increase by 38% by 2030.

The proposed Jersey extension would run 11th Avenue/West 34th Street, currently under construction as part of the extension from Times Square, through new tunnels under the Hudson and the Palisades to reach an interchange with NJ Transit and Amtrak Northeast Corridor services at Secaucus Junction, New Jersey. The journey time between Secaucus and 34th Street would be eight minutes, while Grand Central would be reached within 15 minutes.

The study suggests daily ridership on the extension would reach around 128,000 passengers in both directions in 2035. Some of these will be existing rail passengers although the line is also expected to attract significant traffic from ferries and cars.

No capital costs have been given for the project, and the study says these would be developed at the next stage of analysis, the advanced planning phase, together with a refined engineering design and construction schedule.

The study can be viewed in full at the New York City Economic Development Corporation website. Click here for the PDF.

http://www.railjournal.com/index.php...ml?channel=542
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Old April 14th, 2013, 04:39 AM   #2191
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Old April 14th, 2013, 04:40 AM   #2192
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Study backs New York Subway Jersey extension

A new study for New York Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) has concluded that extending the 7 Subway beneath the Hudson River from Manhattan to New Jersey is viable, less than a year after the project was dismissed by the then MTA chairman Mr Joe Lhota.

The No. 7 Secaucus Extension Feasibility Analysis Final Report, carried out by Parsons Brinckerhoff, states: "The extension of the No. 7 Subway would result in the first trans-Hudson tunnel connection that would provide direct rail access from New Jersey, not only to the West Side of Manhattan, but also to the East Side and multiple locations in Queens. It would provide needed capacity across the Hudson River and advance the broader goal of enhancing regional connectivity."

According to the report, the project meets many of the objectives of the Access to the Region's Core (ARC) commuter rail tunnel cancelled in October 2010 and would help to accommodate sustained growth in trans-Hudson traffic, which is forecast to increase by 38% by 2030.

The proposed Jersey extension would run 11th Avenue/West 34th Street, currently under construction as part of the extension from Times Square, through new tunnels under the Hudson and the Palisades to reach an interchange with NJ Transit and Amtrak Northeast Corridor services at Secaucus Junction, New Jersey. The journey time between Secaucus and 34th Street would be eight minutes, while Grand Central would be reached within 15 minutes.

The study suggests daily ridership on the extension would reach around 128,000 passengers in both directions in 2035. Some of these will be existing rail passengers although the line is also expected to attract significant traffic from ferries and cars.

No capital costs have been given for the project, and the study says these would be developed at the next stage of analysis, the advanced planning phase, together with a refined engineering design and construction schedule.

The study can be viewed in full at the New York City Economic Development Corporation website. Click here for the PDF.

http://www.railjournal.com/index.php...ml?channel=542
This project is behind the Gateway which just needs funding and the MTA said it won't do it....NJT and PATH will team up and kill it which is why the Gateway will go through.
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This may be a stupid question, but would it be possible to link lines 7 and L and fuse them into a single line?
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This may be a stupid question, but would it be possible to link lines 7 and L and fuse them into a single line?
No the 7 is narrow and the L uses wider trains however they could meet in Chelsea somewhere. The Amtrak Gateway Project calls for the 7 to be extended to the New Penn Station south....
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You mean the planned extension of line 7 to 11th Avenue/34th Street? Line L could go under the 10th Avenue to the 34th Street, a single subway station on line 7 seems not enough for when Hudson Yards development is finished. Maybe even extending line L farther uptown to the 72nd Street, covering Hell's Kitchen and giving it a connection with lines 1, 2, and 3. But excessive construction costs in NYC probably make this hypothetical.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 03:37 AM   #2196
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Nexis, here is the report on the feasibility study for the 7 train extension.
http://www.nycedc.com/sites/default/...April_2013.pdf

The report is full of plans and sections. Parts of it are from 2011, when the idea first dawned. Ironically, the 7 SUBWAY line would go on the roof level at Secaucus Junction...
They better put some midway stations in Hoboken and/or the Palisades. The line will pass under the HBLR. According to that study, there will be numerous improvements to existing stations to accomodate the load. Secaucus Junction could easily handle the load, but I agree with you, The Gateway Project is far better, as it will accomodate High-Speed Rail, something that this country sorely lacks.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 06:36 AM   #2197
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The New Yorker put up an intractive graph that allows you to choose a line and see average income per station are. Quite fun: http://www.newyorker.com/sandbox/bus....html?mobify=0

Route N for instance

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Old April 18th, 2013, 08:54 PM   #2198
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Extend PATH to Secaucus and other places in NJ and build Gateway project, not the 7 line

Why in the heck are they doing this study for are they ignoring that PATH already does this it goes to New Jersey already with a New York and New Jersey partnership its easier to build an extension for PATH then it is for the NY Subway to NJ trust me, what the heck is bloomberg thinking Extend PATH.

PATH can be extended to other places in NJ like Elizabeth, Staten Island, North Bergen, Secaucus and Meadowlands, etc its easier to do so then the NY Subway anybody agree with me on this.

I fully support Gateway since that will also contribute to High Speed Rail but PATH expansion i support more then a NY Subway to NJ.

if NY subway wants to expand, expand to areas less served by the Subways like Co-op city, northeast queens, southeast queens, east brooklyn, Staten Island, Laguadia Airport, etc.
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Lol. A NY-NJ partnership requiring two states to agree to everything? That sounds like a wonderful idea. It's amazing the World Trade Center PATH station has been rebuilt in record time.
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Governor Cuomo Announces Wireless Service Has Arrived at 30 Additional Underground Subway Stations

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