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Old May 23rd, 2013, 06:26 AM   #2221
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Another photos of the Third AV Elevated.



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September 1942. "New York. Looking downtown from the Third Avenue elevated railway in the 'Fifties'." A platform on the long-vanished El.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 06:31 AM   #2222
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another one..



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September 1942. "New York. Third Avenue elevated railway at 18th Street." The Shorpy Pub Crawl starts at Flynn's! Medium format negative by Marjory Collins for the Office of War Information
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 06:55 AM   #2223
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SEPT 1942. New York, New York. Looking north from the 9th Street station on the Third Avenue elevated railway as a train leaves on the local track
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 08:47 PM   #2224
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It should be noted that some of these ELs had much lower loading gauges that wouldn't have allowed for the circulation of modern heavy train cars. They could only withstand the crap wooden-framed cars by design.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 09:04 PM   #2225
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Yea right, that is why a similar elevated railway has run for a 120 years now in Chicago
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 09:08 PM   #2226
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Yea right, that is why a similar elevated railway has run for a 120 years now in Chicago
The EL in Chicago was built with higher specs than the ELs torn down in NEw York. And so were some of the elevated subway lines in NY that are still standing.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 10:59 PM   #2227
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The EL in Chicago was built with higher specs than the ELs torn down in NEw York. And so were some of the elevated subway lines in NY that are still standing.
True..most of the subway lines in Brooklyn, Queens ,The Bronx and Staten island are elevated. Many of the long gone elevated lines in Manhattan were built in the late 1800's for wooden carriages..not steel.. Mayor F. LaGuadia started removing them during his tenure as more subway lines were built in Manhattan. He also felt they were and eyesore.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 11:21 PM   #2228
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I wouldn't call the SI Railway a subway line.
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Old May 24th, 2013, 12:59 AM   #2229
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Underground in red:

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To continue the trend and the nostalgia for the 3rd ave EL, a lovely short movie from 1955. It is preserved by the Academy Film Archive, tells a story of New York, the 3rd Ave EL, the people who rode it... and a coin.


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When I was a little boy circa 1953-1955 (when it closed) I rode on this line with my real dad from his home not to far from this picture to 42nd st..then cross town(on a bus as I think) to Times Square to get the #1 Broadway local to my moms apartment in Harlem. I don't remember much. But I do remember standing and waiting for a train...Long before most of the readers of this forum were born.
bd popeye, replace the little girl by a little boy and it could have been you





Another video, a 1954 reportage about the upcoming closure of the EL



And another one, a little bit long, almost an hour. I haven't seen all of it yet, but it is supposed to show the entirity of the line, narrated by the transit historian Roger Arcara.

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Old May 24th, 2013, 05:59 AM   #2231
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I was wondering, is there an estimated completion date for the entire Second Avenue Line (Phase 1 to Phase 4)? My guess is its gonna take a few decades...and probably by then we'll only have phase 3 starting construction.
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The only thing is that the east end of the 7 train in Flushing is underground
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You mean in Manhattan of course. Elevated lines still exist in the other boroughs.
You're right - could easily be mistaken if you missed the context of my reply
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Old May 25th, 2013, 10:03 PM   #2235
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City: New York
System: New York City Transit
Line: 3rd Avenue El
Location: Chatham Square
Car: MUDC
Photo by: Frank Pfuhler
Date: 3/27/1955
Notes: View north along uptown track to rear car of MUDC train.


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Line: 3rd Avenue El
Location: Canal Street
Date: Circa 1951-1955
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City: New York
System: New York City Transit
Line: 3rd Avenue El
Location: 9th Street
Collection of: Frank Pfuhler
Date: 5/12/1955
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very interesting
http://gizmodo.com/how-a-massive-new...eath-510166126
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From the new experimental version of Google Maps:



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Old May 29th, 2013, 06:34 PM   #2238
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Hm.. weird. It should be faster with the G-line. The conection Queens - Brooklyn via Manhattan seems to be silly.
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Bedford ave station and Long Island City station are quite far from the starting and ending points. That would mean an additional couple of buses. Probably Google doesn't consider such solution. It may work, tho.
BK and QNS lack an actual direct subway link all the way from Coney Island to Flushing Meadows, for example.
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Manhattan circa 1905. West 129th Street and Manhattan Street (now called St. Clair Place and West 125th Street, respectively. Still a station for the "#1 Broadway Local"
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