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Old June 14th, 2013, 01:17 PM   #2261
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disapointing metro for this city i repeat.

it's incredible to not see state of the art designed cars?
when i look at this city and amazing things (new one trade center etc...) incredible to not see a metro that meets the prestigious of the town
Really? Those are the historic cars , they only come out a few times a year... Your trolling of this thread is becoming ridiculous. Each city Metro is different , not everyone wants to model after Paris.
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Old June 14th, 2013, 01:50 PM   #2262
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Is this the English you get when you use Google Translate?
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Old June 15th, 2013, 02:53 AM   #2263
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disapointing metro for this city i repeat.

it's incredible to not see state of the art designed cars?
when i look at this city and amazing things (new one trade center etc...) incredible to not see a metro that meets the prestigious of the town
Here's a link to the present day rolling stock of the New York City subway.

Current Fleet New York City Subway
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Old June 15th, 2013, 05:19 PM   #2264
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disapointing metro for this city i repeat.

it's incredible to not see state of the art designed cars?
when i look at this city and amazing things (new one trade center etc...) incredible to not see a metro that meets the prestigious of the town
What's wrong with the current rolling stock?
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Old June 15th, 2013, 06:26 PM   #2265
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What's wrong with the current rolling stock?
Nothing in my opinion! Many of the NYC subway cars were & are built by Kawasaki Rail Car in Yonkers NY. Just a stone's throw from Manhattan.



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System: New York City Transit
Line: IRT Pelham Line
Location: Whitlock Avenue
Route: 6
Car: R-142A (Option Order, Kawasaki, 2002-2003) 7665
Photo by: Neil Feldman
Date: 2/1/2013


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System: New York City Transit
Route: 6
Car: R-142A (Primary Order, Kawasaki, 1999-2002) 7562
Photo by: Neil Feldman
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City: New York
System: New York City Transit
Line: IRT Dyre AV Line
Location: East 180th Street
Route: 5
Car: R-142 or R-142A (Number Unknown)
Photo by: Wilfredo Castillo
Date: 8/18/2012
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Old June 15th, 2013, 07:27 PM   #2266
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From inside they look really good, but from outside they could be better... But I love them
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Old June 15th, 2013, 11:37 PM   #2267
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From inside they look really good, but from outside they could be better... But I love them
And unlike some metros on this planet they run 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.
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Old June 16th, 2013, 12:08 AM   #2268
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Well it's not individual trains that are running 24|7|365, but the entire line, so it has more to do with track and tunnel maintenance... Trains are going into maintence workshops after certain period and/or certain distance travelled anyway.
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Old June 16th, 2013, 12:17 AM   #2269
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Well it's not individual trains that are running 24|7|365, but the entire line, so it has more to do with track and tunnel maintenance... Trains are going into maintence workshops after certain period and/or certain distance travelled anyway.
I'm sure most members understood what I meant. And you are of course correct.
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Old June 16th, 2013, 03:20 AM   #2270
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My favorite NYC Subway rolling stock is the R-160A. Some people may not like the noise the trains create as they pull into the station, but I certainly do!
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Old June 16th, 2013, 05:18 AM   #2271
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My favorite NYC Subway rolling stock is the R-160A. Some people may not like the noise the trains create as they pull into the station, but I certainly do!
I myself am a fan of the R32, and I will be upset when they're scrapped in three years.
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Old June 16th, 2013, 06:29 AM   #2272
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Those R-32s have sure lived a good life. They will definitely be missed.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 12:35 AM   #2273
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Those R-32s have sure lived a good life. They will definitely be missed.
A hardy AMEN to that!



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City: New York
System: New York City Transit
Line: IND 8th Avenue Line
Location: 207th Street
Route: A
Car: R-32 (Budd, 1964) 3404
Photo by: Glenn L. Rowe
Date: 5/6/2009


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City: New York
System: New York City Transit
Line: IND 8th Avenue Line
Location: Chambers Street/World Trade Center
Route: A
Car: R-32 (Budd, 1964)
Photo by: Phillip Lee
Date: 7/18/2006


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System: New York City Transit
Line: IND Rockaway
Location: Beach 67th Street/Gaston Avenue
Route: A
Car: R-32 (Budd, 1964) 3407
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System: New York City Transit
Line: IND Fulton Street Line
Location: Broadway/East New York (Broadway Junction)
Route: C
Car: R-32 (Budd, 1964)
Photo by: Trevor Logan
Date: 12/6/2001
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Old June 18th, 2013, 07:53 PM   #2274
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Don't know how many of you have heard, but Penn Station is due for a drastic redesign in another ten years. The first designs were submitted by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (designers of Freedom Tower and Burj Khalifa). Curious to hear your opinions on this as I think that hatred of the current Penn Station is all but unanimous.





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Don't know how many of you have heard, but Penn Station is due for a drastic redesign in another ten years. The first designs were submitted by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (designers of Freedom Tower and Burj Khalifa). Curious to hear your opinions on this as I think that hatred of the current Penn Station is all but unanimous.

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I will bet my wallet this will not happen because of cost. It will defiantly will be scaled down (if it happens)
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Old June 18th, 2013, 07:59 PM   #2276
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This designs are too expensive. Won't ever happen. What do you think, guys?
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Old June 18th, 2013, 10:31 PM   #2277
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This designs are too expensive. Won't ever happen. What do you think, guys?
I agree. It's probably expensive NOW.. what will it be in ten years? Any cost estimation.

In my opinion it's nothing more than a dream.
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Light-rail push for 42nd Street gets rolling

An initiative to replace cars and buses on 42nd Street with light rail has gone nowhere without the mayor on board, but backers aim to convince his successor




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A citizen's initiative to revolutionize 42nd Street with light rail has been stopped in its tracks since the mayor declined to get on board, but supporters are courting his potential successors.

The proposal would ban cars from 42nd Street and install a trolley-like system, transforming the crowded thoroughfare into a pedestrian space.

"Crosstown movement in midtown is torture," said Roxanne Warren, co-chair of vision42, the group behind the plan. "It's a disgrace for such an important city. We should be proud of 42nd Street."

It would seem an odd time to push such an ambitious project. Mayor Michael Bloomberg has just under 200 days left in office and has shown no signs of taking action on the proposal, which has bubbled up occasionally over the years. According to Ms. Warren, when vision42 initially approached Mr. Bloomberg, he dismissed its idea as competitive with his $2 billion extension of the No. 7 subway line from Times Square to the far West Side, currently under construction.

Now, light rail on 42nd Street seems to have lost all traction in the administration: A spokeswoman for Mr. Bloomberg said she was unfamiliar with the plan.

Fans of the project are instead wooing the 2013 mayoral candidates. They already have backing from eight elected public officials, including a City Council member, three state senators and two congressional representatives. Ms. Warren said she is optimistic that the proposal will receive serious consideration from the next administration.

According to vision42, the 2.5-mile light-rail line would cost between $360 million and $510 million, roughly one-tenth what subway construction costs per mile. With the increased pedestrian traffic that the reconfiguration of 42nd Street would generate, the group estimates that business at retail shops and restaurants would increase by 35%.

"What we would do is have this [light rail] within a fully-landscaped, walking environment," said Ms. Warren. "Eliminating traffic will allow space for cafés and other amenities." According to a study conducted by vision42, about 60% of restaurateurs on 42nd Street would consider opening sidewalk cafés if light rail were installed.

Lucius Riccio, former commissioner of the Department of Transportation, loves the idea. "Why should San Francisco have all the fun?" he said. "I'd like to see us have more pedestrian-friendly efforts."

But a deputy commissioner for the agency, Seth Solomonow, was quick to point out that there have already been major improvements to the 42nd Street area in recent years, including the No. 7 train project, a Times Square pedestrian plaza and a high-tech traffic management system in midtown.

"This corridor already has some of the most extensive bus and subway service in the city, and we recently implemented bike-share stations in the area," he added.

Buses on 42nd Street, however, are notoriously pokey. According to the Straphangers Campaign, a transit advocacy effort in the city, the M42 was Manhattan's slowest bus 2012, with an average speed of just 3.9 miles per hour at noon on a weekday.

Ms. Warren believes the light-rail system would be far superior. "It's a smoother, more appealing ride, it has three times the capacity, and it has a permanence that reinforces new development," she said.

Light rail is used in major cities throughout the U.S., including Boston, Los Angeles and Philadelphia. Light-rail proposals for 42nd Street date as far back as 1994, when a plan was approved by the City Council. It died for lack of funding.
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Wow!!! Amazing project! It will be amazing, if NY get tram system. But it can cause big problems with traffic in midtown, isn't it?
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The project looks great, but...

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According to vision42, the 2.5-mile light-rail line would cost between $360 million and $510 million, roughly one-tenth what subway construction costs per mile.
What? $3.6B to $5B per mile for a subway? $200M/mile would already be expensive by european standards.
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