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Old January 30th, 2014, 06:09 PM   #2481
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Oh the irony...

While I agree with your sentiment about "New York City having to meet high quality standards" being bullshit, that picture is a poor way of showing it. That station was heavily damaged and flooded during a storm.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 07:23 PM   #2482
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What exactly is being related by this cloaked statement?
S. Ferry shut? What other stn must be shuttered?
You are quoting this out of context and accusing the poster of posting a cloaked statement. This used to be called the pot calling the kettle black.

The post was about stations that are not open 24/7. The Broad Street and Fulton Street stations on the J train are not served overnight when the J terminates at Chambers.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 08:01 PM   #2483
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Old January 31st, 2014, 06:44 AM   #2484
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You are quoting this out of context and accusing the poster of posting a cloaked statement. This used to be called the pot calling the kettle black.

The post was about stations that are not open 24/7. The Broad Street and Fulton Street stations on the J train are not served overnight when the J terminates at Chambers.
I actually got this wrong myself. Broad and Fulton are not served on the weekends, so those are 24/5 stations. R train stations in Manhattan south of Canal Street are also not served on weekends currently due to works in the Montague tunnel (those trains are routed to Brooklyn via the Manhattan Bridge on weekends).
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Old February 4th, 2014, 09:05 PM   #2485
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NY/NJ Port Authority plans $27.6 bln infrastructure spending

Feb 4 (Reuters) - The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey will spend nearly $30 billion on upgrading transportation infrastructure in the New York metropolitan area over the next decade, the bistate agency said in a ten-year capital plan released on Tuesday.

The agency, which runs the major airports, bridges and other shared infrastructure in the region, including six marine terminals, said its $27.6 billion capital plan will include $5.6 billion for new terminals at La Guardia and Newark airports. The plan will also include $3.3 billion in upgrades to the trans-Hudson PATH train system with an extension to Newark Airport, creating a direct link between the airport and lower Manhattan.

Around $12.6 billion on the total will be used for repair projects to bring the region's aging infrastructure up to date. "We have been hard at work developing this plan for over a year," said Patrick Foye, the agency's executive director, at a meeting of the agency's capital planning committee.

The ten-year plan will also include $4.9 billion to develop the World Trade Center site. The Port Authority said it expects the ten-year plan to create 126,000 jobs, $7.3 billion in wages and $29 billion in economic activity.
Foye is hoping to steer the focus over the agency back to its core mission of managing the region's transportation needs.

The agency is struggling to shake off controversy after allegations that several of its employees deliberately caused days of massive traffic delays by closing lanes on the George Washington Bridge for political reasons.
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Old February 5th, 2014, 12:13 AM   #2486
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While I agree with your sentiment about "New York City having to meet high quality standards" being bullshit, that picture is a poor way of showing it. That station was heavily damaged and flooded during a storm.
It looks like it's from a wreck of a metro system.
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Old February 5th, 2014, 05:21 AM   #2487
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That particular station was actually very clean and tidy. It was new. When the storm hit, the entire station was under water.

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Old February 5th, 2014, 03:06 PM   #2488
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Guys, please tell if if you see any mistakes on this map I made. I'm getting some anonymous crap on Wikipedia that it's full of mistakes, especially for the route of 1 train, and that there is no single-track lines (what about northern half of Franklin Ave. shuttle?). I made it a according to track maps from this site: http://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/New_Yo...way_Track_Maps

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Old February 6th, 2014, 03:36 AM   #2489
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It may be due to you excluding short tracks at stations (as your legend states - some might not realize this). For example, I believe there is a significant amount of non-revenue tracks on the 8th Avenue line in Harlem, as well as between Morris Park and Pelham Pkwy on the 5 train in the Bronx. You are right about the Franklin shuttle. The Culver express follows a slightly different route under Prospect Pk between FHP and 7 Avenue than the Culver local.
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Old February 6th, 2014, 04:31 AM   #2490
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It may be due to you excluding short tracks at stations (as your legend states - some might not realize this).
The idea was to show the general number of tracks on lines. It would be impossible to show all track segments on a comprehensive map of the network and keep clarity. That is what detailed track maps are for.
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For example, I believe there is a significant amount of non-revenue tracks on the 8th Avenue line in Harlem,
I decided to regard them as station tracks, as they don't connect two stations, starting between 125 St. and 135 St. stations and ending just after the latter.
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as well as between Morris Park and Pelham Pkwy on the 5 train in the Bronx.
These are long but have dead ends to the north, being connected with the line only on the southern end, so I disregarded them too.
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The Culver express follows a slightly different route under Prospect Pk between FHP and 7 Avenue than the Culver local.
I saw that but ignored it for sake of simplicity, as this stretch is not long.
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Old February 10th, 2014, 12:23 PM   #2491
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I have noticed on that map that most of the north-south subway lines in Manhattan actually have four tracks rather than just two. Any reasoning for this?
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Old February 10th, 2014, 01:00 PM   #2492
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Old February 10th, 2014, 02:17 PM   #2493
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Travel time too. For example D train skips 8 stations in Upper West Side and Harlem, and A train skips 9 stations in Brooklyn. What makes NYC subway even more interesting are three-track lines.
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Old February 10th, 2014, 04:38 PM   #2494
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I have noticed on that map that most of the north-south subway lines in Manhattan actually have four tracks rather than just two. Any reasoning for this?
I think it's for express service(?).
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Old February 10th, 2014, 08:46 PM   #2495
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What are some ways that labor unions drive up the costs of subway construction in NYC?

What attempts have there been to curtail union power in NYC?
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Old February 10th, 2014, 10:15 PM   #2496
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What makes NYC subway even more interesting are three-track lines.
Again, capacity. With NYC's huge unidirectional commuter influx into Manhattan in the morning rush hours and out again in the evening, the additional middle track provides extra capacity in the peak direction.
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Old February 10th, 2014, 10:17 PM   #2497
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I would hazard a guess that the unions aren't nearly as much of a problem as the federal rules for funding a transit line; EIS statements, evaluations of alternatives, and on and on. I'm not necessarily one for the Chinese model (15 subway lines in Shanghai in as many years?????), but there has to be some middle ground somewhere.
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Old February 10th, 2014, 10:32 PM   #2498
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SAS update, published on Flickr today:

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Old February 10th, 2014, 11:48 PM   #2499
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Old February 11th, 2014, 08:42 AM   #2500
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I would hazard a guess that the unions aren't nearly as much of a problem as the federal rules for funding a transit line; EIS statements, evaluations of alternatives, and on and on. I'm not necessarily one for the Chinese model (15 subway lines in Shanghai in as many years?????), but there has to be some middle ground somewhere.
15 lines in 20 years. However, I don't think the Chinese model can be replicated anywhere else in the world. But clearly, given the amount of new proposals for transport improvements in New York, there is a need to for some changes in the way we do things here in North America.
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