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Old March 7th, 2014, 01:53 AM   #2561
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Yes, the Second Avenue subway phases 2 through 4 are many years in the future - the Warren Wilhelm, Jr. Second Avenue Memorial Subway may be the name when it is all complete.
Second Avenue's 1st Phase wont be complete by 2018 at the earliest.

Phase 2, 3, 4 are decades away from completion if funding is given to them.

I say 2050 before the entire second avenue subway is complete.
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Old March 10th, 2014, 01:02 AM   #2562
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Why Are Some Letters Missing From NYC Subway Nomenclature?

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If you’ve ridden the New York City subway, you know that the different trains are often designated by letters of the alphabet (or numbers, but we’re not talking about those).

If you’ve ridden the New York City subway a lot, you know that some letters are missing. And it’s not the tail end of the alphabet, either. There’s an A, B and C train and there’s also a Z train. But there's no H train or Y train. There are several other skipped letters, too.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/55080...y-nomenclature
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Old March 11th, 2014, 07:21 AM   #2564
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SAS February update:

Lots of pictures from Dimlys
Starting to look very neat and organized !
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Old March 11th, 2014, 08:07 PM   #2565
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You don't need to quote all photos...
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Old March 11th, 2014, 08:27 PM   #2566
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You don't need to quote all photos...
What else I could do?
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Old March 11th, 2014, 08:34 PM   #2567
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The Second Avenue Subway been under construction since 2007? It seems like at least five years, with another four years until opening. And it's only 13.7 kilometers long. Beijing, Shanghai, or Guangzhou have completed longer lines in downtown areas, completely underground, in half that time. Singapore too. The existing NYC Subway lines surely were built faster than the Second Avenue line is being built today, so what has changed?
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Old March 11th, 2014, 09:26 PM   #2568
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What else I could do?
He meant Airman Kris - I have now removed the quoted pictures from his post so that all the photos showing construction updates are in your post alone.
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Old March 11th, 2014, 10:05 PM   #2569
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He meant Airman Kris - I have now removed the quoted pictures from his post so that all the photos showing construction updates are in your post alone.
Ah, it's all clear
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Old March 11th, 2014, 10:09 PM   #2570
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Exactly I was writing about a post under Your one
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Old March 11th, 2014, 11:02 PM   #2571
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The Second Avenue Subway been under construction since 2007? It seems like at least five years, with another four years until opening. And it's only 13.7 kilometers long. Beijing, Shanghai, or Guangzhou have completed longer lines in downtown areas, completely underground, in half that time. Singapore too. The existing NYC Subway lines surely were built faster than the Second Avenue line is being built today, so what has changed?
Short answer: hypothetically,if you appropriate $2 million a year to build a something that's projected to cost $20 million, you're looking at a 10 year time frame, not to mention inflation (labor, materials, etc).

Unless I've missed something, the MTA is funded at the state level - it's a state agency - and there's not really a slush of funds for transit floating around NY State or the country (unless Congress gets with the program).

*also, only 3km or so (phase I) of the 2nd Ave line is currently funded.
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Old March 12th, 2014, 11:42 PM   #2572
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Old March 12th, 2014, 11:45 PM   #2573
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@Dymlys1994 You do realize anyone can click on MTA's Flickr page and see every photo, right?
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Old March 13th, 2014, 03:42 AM   #2574
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Second Avenue's 1st Phase wont be complete by 2018 at the earliest.

Phase 2, 3, 4 are decades away from completion if funding is given to them.

I say 2050 before the entire second avenue subway is complete.
Phase I has not fallen behind schedule like East Side access which now wont be open until 2024(I think), As of today, December 2016 is STILL the scheduled opening of SAS Phase I. As for the rest of the phases yeah, My nephew will probably have grandchildren when the MTA finally gets around to completing SAS all phases.
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Old March 13th, 2014, 05:40 AM   #2575
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He meant Airman Kris - I have now removed the quoted pictures from his post so that all the photos showing construction updates are in your post alone.
Sorry. Foolish on my part, Do not think about it sometimes especially after a 12 hour shift.
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Old March 19th, 2014, 08:21 PM   #2576
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SAS March update:

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Second Avenue Subway: March 15, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Old March 19th, 2014, 11:14 PM   #2577
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Short answer: hypothetically,if you appropriate $2 million a year to build a something that's projected to cost $20 million, you're looking at a 10 year time frame, not to mention inflation (labor, materials, etc).

Unless I've missed something, the MTA is funded at the state level - it's a state agency - and there's not really a slush of funds for transit floating around NY State or the country (unless Congress gets with the program).

*also, only 3km or so (phase I) of the 2nd Ave line is currently funded.
Why can't New York City and/or MTA simply issue bonds for the entire cost and repay it through fares and taxes in the future? Isn't that how most infrastructure projects are financed? Tax increment financing (TIF) is a way for the city to tax the additional property value that comes from being near a new subway station.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 01:23 AM   #2578
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Why can't New York City and/or MTA simply issue bonds for the entire cost and repay it through fares and taxes in the future? Isn't that how most infrastructure projects are financed? Tax increment financing (TIF) is a way for the city to tax the additional property value that comes from being near a new subway station.
That's an interesting question...I was always under the impression that they receive funding from Albany (similar situation as Amtrak). In other words, if they want to undertake a capital project, and don't have the funds sitting aside to do it (even with the modest surplus the MTA runs, it would be impossible for them to foot the bill for the entire $17 billion cost of the 2nd Ave. Subway).

I think the fact that it's an arm of the government in Albany, rather than NYC also contributes to this...

These agencies are all so odd
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Old March 25th, 2014, 10:10 PM   #2579
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We now have a firm opening date (subject to slippage, as usual) - Fulton Street transfer (including the famous oculus) will open on 26 June 2014, give or take several month as is usual with the MTA, even when it sets an actual calendar date.

http://secondavenuesagas.com/2014/03...argeting-fall/

In other news, a man dropped his cell phone onto the L tracks in Brooklyn. He went into the pit to pick it up. When the train arrived, he lay down and stayed under the train. Then the train passed over him, and he got up and left the station, both the passenger and the phone emerging unscathed.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...252279151.html
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