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Old April 26th, 2014, 01:54 AM   #2641
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My concern was more you stating "Toronto manages to garner 10,700 people riding the network per km of track" which I am not sure is consistent with micro's methodology (micro website says "network length" which isn't the same as "track length"), apart from the separate question of whether micro's methodology is useful for comparison purposes.
Ah okay, so it was just a semantic thing. Sorry I used the wrong term.
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Old April 27th, 2014, 09:35 PM   #2642
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There are the ridership stats for Toronto if you want to take a look. total ridership numbers are a bit high because transfer stations are double counted. (they count a person each time they use a platform, so transfer stations count people making a transfer) you can exclude those stations, (St. George, Bloor-Yonge, Kennedy, and Sheppard-Yonge) and there are still 2 stations hovering around the 100,000 mark and quite a few over 50,000.

13 of Toronto's 69 stops are below 10,000.

Toronto's ridership figures also include a JFK airtrian tech line used as a metro, which is drastically lower capacity and not really a subway, and contains 3 of the 4 emptiest stations on the system. If you don't count it just 9 stations are under 10k.

Toronto's system is also only 68.3km long. (For now, it'll be closer to 90km by the end of the decade)
Toronto relies heavily on people transferring from buses and streetcars to get to the subway stations. As demonstrated by massive fair paid bus/streetcar terminals around a lot of their key stations. Compare that with New York where most stations just have a stop in front of one of their entrances with a handful of buses serving them. I have been to New York 4 times and have never needed to take a bus to get to and from the subway. There is usually a station within a 15 min walk from where I needed to go.
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Old April 27th, 2014, 09:59 PM   #2643
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This is an Eastern Canada practice. It dawned on me only a few days ago how having rapid transit serve as feeders/collectors instead of being 'intra-district' has been the status quo.

Toronto's ginormous bus dépôts at, e.g, Eglinton, Warden stations, is one of Toronto's few marvels .. it's odd that nobody seems to have attempted sharing views of those exchanges in the 'Your City's Bus Stops' thread
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Old April 28th, 2014, 06:38 PM   #2644
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Board docs: South Ferry reopening still targeting mid-2016
April 28, 2014, by Benjamin Kabak


The new South Ferry is scheduled to reopen in August of 2016 after a near-total rebuild, photo by Benjamin Kabak

It’s been a little more than four months since we last heard a full update on the status of the new South Ferry station. During an MTA Board committee presentation at the end of 2013, John O’Grady presented some options for an elevated and protected signal room and explained how the new station would likely open by mid-2016. In another update set to be delivered to the Capital Program Oversight Committee on Monday, Transit has provided more details on the work and underscored the 2016 date. The new station will reopen nearly four years after Sandy.

The timing on the station comes from an independent review of the status of the job. According to the presentation, Transit will award a five-month demolition contract this month and a 24-month General Construction project in August. The rebuild — which is still on budget — would then wrap around August of 2016, as the MTA said four months ago. There is, of course, plenty of time for this project to fall behind schedule, but with nearly $600 million of federal funding supporting it, the pressure to deliver on time will be strong.

Meanwhile, this week’s presentation lists out the major scope items for the general rebuild. At the top of the list is grouting and leak mitigation, two problems that plagued the new station before it had even opened. Since the MTA has to essentially strip all of the finishes out of the destroyed station, crews have a second chance to get waterproofing right.

The other items on the list are fairly standard for any new station build out but with some twists for resiliency. The plans include modifications to critical structures (including the signal room), replacement of all communications and fiber optics systems; new signals, relays and third rail; and various other flood mitigation work including resilient stainless steel and glass entrances.

What I find most telling about this project, outside of the price tag, is the timing. It will have taken nearly the same amount of time to build the station originally as it will to completely reconstruct it after Sandy. In one sense, I’m being admittedly hyperbolic it’s taken nearly a year and a half to spec the work and issue contracts. But on the other hand, that’s an “inside baseball” distinction. Outwardly, to the general public, the new South Ferry station is a memory, and it will be for some time still.
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Old April 30th, 2014, 01:22 AM   #2645
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I'm not holding my breath for mid-2016. I would guess at early 2017 if at best...knowing how the MTA does things.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 10:15 PM   #2646
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Renovation works in Montague Tunnel:

Montague Tube Work: April 29, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

Montague Tube Work: April 29, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

Montague Tube Work: April 29, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

Montague Tube Work: April 29, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

Montague Tube Work: April 29, 2014 by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Old May 2nd, 2014, 07:58 AM   #2647
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New York subway looks like a dump. Tell the MTA to learn something from SEPTA.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 09:20 AM   #2648
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 06:46 PM   #2649
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There was a derailment on the F train on the express tracks in Queens, between Northern Blvd and 65th Street stations (the F stops at neither of those stations) in the Woodside district. Passengers are emerging from the sidewalk emergency exit in front of a brick six-story apartment building at 60th St and Broadway.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 11:16 PM   #2650
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 12:03 AM   #2651
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A Subterranean Stroll Through NYC's Newest Train Tunnel







more http://gizmodo.com/a-subterranean-st...nel-1570826409
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 01:29 AM   #2652
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Old May 4th, 2014, 05:25 PM   #2653
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For those of you who don't live in Queens, NY, and thus missed all the fun, beginning this past Fri morning - southbound F train derailed on the express track adjacent to 65th St station:



http://secondavenuesagas.com/2014/05...ils-in-queens/
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What are the chances of fixing it by tomorrow morning? If not I presume Queens is in a shitstorm without the F and the E .
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What are the chances of fixing it by tomorrow morning? If not I Queens is in a shitstorm without the F and the E .
Friday was a disaster for anyone trying to get to/from Queens.

The E & F are presently running, all local in both directions, in Queens. No R service (cut back to 57/7). It is alleged normal service will resume on Mon AM, 5 May.
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Old May 6th, 2014, 07:54 PM   #2656
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M60 Select Bus Service will launch on 05.25.2014. This will be the first BRT route that goes into Queens. This project includes dedicated bus lanes along some blocks of 125th St in Harlem along with off-board fare payment.

M60 SBS will connect to numerous subway lines and Metro-North along 125th St in Harlem, along with the "1" train at 116th St/Broadway and the "N"/"Q" trains in Astoria.

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http://www.nyc.gov/html/mancb9/downl...each_Flyer.pdf
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Queens-bound 88 St and 104 St A Line Stations To Close for Three Months for Renewal
May 08th, 2014

A line customers in Queens are about to see lots of station improvements. New York City Transit is about to begin a major $39 million capital project at five stations along the A on Liberty Avenue in Ozone Park. The project calls for station renewals at 80 St-Hudson Street, 88 St-Boyd Avenue, Rockaway Boulevard, 104 St-Oxford Avenue and 111 St-Greenwood Avenue. For these stations, originally opened in the early 1900’s, these improvements include the installation of new lighting, better platforms, enhanced safety features, and upgraded communications, and will create significantly better conditions for customers.

Improvements at these five stations will also feature repair or replacement of mezzanine to platform stairs, mezzanine floors, doors and windows, and interior and exterior walls. Each station will be painted and canopies, windscreen panels and railings will also be replaced. Customers will also benefit from new lighting in the mezzanines, and new artwork. The construction contracts were awarded in December 2013 as a joint venture to Forte Construction Corp and Emis Construction Group.

In order to carry out work on this project in a safe and efficient fashion, we will temporarily close the Queens-bound platforms of the 88th St-Boyd Avenue and 104 St-Oxford Avenue Stations from May 12, 2014 to August 18, 2014. Normal A service will be provided travelling towards Manhattan.

Queens-bound customers travelling to 88th St-Boyd Avenue must ride to the Rockaway Blvd Station and transfer to a Manhattan-bound A train. Customers wishing to ride towards Ozone Park Lefferts Blvd or the Rockaways from 88 St-Boyd Avenue must ride a Manhattan-bound A train to 80 St-Hudson Street and transfer to a Queens-bound A train. Normal service will be provided travelling towards Manhattan.

Queens-bound riders travelling to 104 St-Oxford Avenue must ride to the 111 St-Greenwood Avenue Station and transfer to a Manhattan-bound Atrain. Riders wishing to travel towards Ozone Park-Lefferts Blvd from 104 St-Oxford Avenue must ride a Manhattan-bound A train to Rockaway Blvd and transfer to an Ozone Park-Lefferts Boulevard-bound A train.

Following the completion of this phase of the project, work will move over to the Manhattan-bound platforms at these two stations, tentatively scheduled to begin in September 2014.

We appreciate the community’s patience and understanding while we carry out this important work. Service notices will be posted in all stations along the Liberty Avenue line prior to the commencement of work and announcements will be made on trains. Brochures are also available at station booths.
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Plus from MTA's Flickr page - a new lift installed on Forest Hill - 71st Ave station (for E, F, M, R services):

Forest Hills-71st Av. ADA Elevators by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

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Forest Hills-71st Av. ADA Elevators by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

And Middletown Road and Castle Hill Ave stations (both for 6 service) reopened after refubrishing works. Middletown Road station is not shown, but ribbon cutting was for both stations:

Castle Hill Av. Ribbon Cutting by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

Castle Hill Av. Ribbon Cutting by MTAPhotos, on Flickr

Castle Hill Av. Ribbon Cutting by MTAPhotos, on Flickr
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 09:09 AM   #2659
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Courtesy of Eric

R-62A Subway Cars #2446/2447 - West Side IRT at 125 St by transbay, on Flickr

R-62A Subway Cars #1671-1674 - IRT Flushing Line by transbay, on Flickr

R-62A Subway Cars #2293-2295 - West Side IRT at Dyckman St by transbay, on Flickr

West Side IRT in Upper Manhattan by transbay, on Flickr

West Side IRT in Upper Manhattan by transbay, on Flickr

West Side IRT in Upper Manhattan by transbay, on Flickr

R-62A Subway Cars #1659/1660/2021 - IRT Flushing Line at QBP by transbay, on Flickr

Queensboro Plaza (R-62A Subway Car #1740) by transbay, on Flickr

Elevated track at Marcy Avenue by transbay, on Flickr

M train coming off the Williamsburg Bridge by transbay, on Flickr
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Remembering Massimo Vignelli, Acclaimed Designer of Controversial 1972 Subway Map
May 28th, 2014


1972 Massimo Vignelli subway map

Massimo Vignelli, the influential graphic designer who reimagined the MTA New York City Transit subway system as a neat grid of colored lines surrounded by a beige ocean, died Tuesday in Manhattan at the age of 83.

Vignelli’s portfolio included brand and corporate identities for some of America’s most visible companies and organizations, including American Airlines, J.C. Penney and the National Park Service. But for New Yorkers and visitors who ride the subways, he is best known for his 1972 Modernist interpretation of New York and its underground transit system.

In August 1972, the MTA unveiled a drastically different subway map designed by Vignelli. It showed the transit system as a series of straight lines that sometimes veered at 45 degree angles, rather than a more realistic tangle of curved paths. Most other metro systems in the world use a diagrammatic, not a geographical approach - most notably Harry Beck's 1933 London Underground map. New York, with its system of local and express trains, presents complications in mapping that no other transit system faces. Vignelli's diagram, along with the MTA's neighborhood maps that came along later, are intended to work together to guide customers through the system, then to their street destination. Unlike Beck, who omitted aboveground landmarks and names of neighborhoods from his map of the Tube system, Vignelli included Central Park and the names of the city’s five boroughs. He later argued against that decision by saying the map should focus on the subway system and not include distractions like geographic references.

The MTA replaced the Vignelli map with Mike Hertz’s geographic approach in 1979 after customers complained about Vignelli’s “geographic inaccuracies” -- Central Park, for example, was a square rather than its actual rectangular shape – and others found it aesthetically confusing to make the water around New York beige rather than blue.

Design fans, however, celebrated the map and made it a coveted souvenir of trips to New York. It later became part of the postwar design collection at the Museum of Modern Art.

In recent years, Vignelli worked with colleagues Beatriz Cifuentes and Yoshi Waterhouse to update the diagram. When the MTA sought a subway diagram for the Weekender website and phone app, Vignelli's improved diagram fit the need. The Weekender’s subway-only diagram is free of most geographic references – just as Vignelli had wished for his 1972 design.
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