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Old April 9th, 2015, 01:40 PM   #2961
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Old April 9th, 2015, 04:25 PM   #2962
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Old April 9th, 2015, 06:38 PM   #2963
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Old April 9th, 2015, 10:37 PM   #2964
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How long are NY city subway trains?
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Old April 13th, 2015, 03:10 AM   #2965
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How long are NY city subway trains?
Are you referring to the individual cars or the total length of the trains?

Trains on most routes are 10 cars long. Well they were 4 years ago when I was last in NYC.

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Old April 13th, 2015, 05:22 PM   #2966
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Thank you for replying.

Are all the cars in NY subway that short (15.65 m long) or there are longer?

Do 10-car trains run on all lines?
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Old April 13th, 2015, 10:46 PM   #2967
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Are all the cars in NY subway that short (15.65 m long) or there are longer?

Do 10-car trains run on all lines?
A division trains (numbered lines) run 15.65 meter long cars. All lines run with 10 car trains with the exception of the 42nd Street Shuttle, which runs 3 or 4 car trains, and the 7 line, which runs 11 car trains.

B division (lettered lines) cars are either 18.29 meters long or 22.86 meters long. Again, the typical train length on the B division is either ten 18 meter long cars or eight 23 meter long cars. The exceptions are the Franklin Ave Shuttle, which runs trains of two 23 meter cars, the Rockaway Shuttle, which runs trains of four 23 meter cars, and the C, J, M, & Z trains run with trains of eight 18 meter long cars. Also, on the weekends, the M shuttle runs at half length (four 18 meter long cars per train).
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Old April 14th, 2015, 02:02 AM   #2968
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This is probably something that was said before, but numbered lines are the former Interborough Rapid Transit (IRT) system. This was the first subway in NYC (and one of the first in the world) in 1904. In addition to suffering from the disadvantages common in older systems (sharp curves, short platforms, low ceilings, etc.) the IRT is said to have deliberately made its tunnels have a smaller cross-section so that competitors couldn't operate their trains on IRT track. The IRT went bankrupt in the 1930s, and was quite happy to be taken over by the city in 1940.

Lettered lines represent the former BRT/BMT and IND systems. The Brooklyn Rapid Transit (BRT) was a private corporation that went bankrupt and reorganized as the Brooklyn-Manhattan Transportation (BMT) company in 1918 after a disastrous crash. The BMT cultivated a reputation for safety and innovation and was upset when the city forced it to sell out in 1940 just as it was introducing next-generation rolling stock.

The IND was the Independent System. Built and owned by the city from the beginning, it was started in the 1920s with its first lines competing with the Els that the IRT and BMT owned. Even as construction was under way, a "Second System" that was much bigger and would provide service to more of the city (while closing more els) was proposed-in 1929. The fact that the 2nd Avenue Subway now under construction is the first major part to be built says something about what happened.

When the city took over the private lines in 1940, it immediately closed the Els that competed with its own lines. This included the Fulton Street El in Brooklyn, and the 9th Avenue El, and part of 2nd Avenue El in Manhattan (the 6th Avenue had closed earlier in 1938). In 1942, the rest of the 2nd Avenue El was torn down for scrap metal to help with the war effort. The 3rd Avenue El in Manhattan came down between 1950 and 1955. This left just one subway line running on the entire East Side of Manhattan-the Lexington Avenue Line. This was not thought to be too much of an issue because the new 2nd Avenue Subway was going to be built soon.

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A division trains (numbered lines) run 15.65 meter long cars. All lines run with 10 car trains with the exception of the 42nd Street Shuttle, which runs 3 or 4 car trains, and the 7 line, which runs 11 car trains.

B division (lettered lines) cars are either 18.29 meters long or 22.86 meters long. Again, the typical train length on the B division is either ten 18 meter long cars or eight 23 meter long cars. The exceptions are the Franklin Ave Shuttle, which runs trains of two 23 meter cars, the Rockaway Shuttle, which runs trains of four 23 meter cars, and the C, J, M, & Z trains run with trains of eight 18 meter long cars. Also, on the weekends, the M shuttle runs at half length (four 18 meter long cars per train).
Thank you very much for your complete answer!

What about the train witdh? And how many car manufacturers are in NY subway? What is their distribution throughout the system?
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IRT Flushing Line at Flushing - Main Street



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I posted Flushing Main Street on the last page

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Thank you very much for your complete answer!

What about the train witdh? And how many car manufacturers are in NY subway? What is their distribution throughout the system?
A division cars are 2.611 meters wide while B division cars are 2.978 meters wide.

You should read up on this; it should answer your questions in a jiffy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yor..._rolling_stock
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Those are too big , please use Flickr or Photobucket for Subway photos...
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Those C trains must be the oldest trains still in use. I can't imagine what it must be like to maintain them or how much it must cost.
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Those C trains must be the oldest trains still in use. I can't imagine what it must be like to maintain them or how much it must cost.
Those are R32 cars. They're apparently surprisingly cheap-they've outlasted or matched the next four generations of rolling stock after them (R38, R40, R42, R44). Budd did amazing things with Stainless Steel-Amtrak is still using some equipment that's even older (though the ones from the 1940s and early 1950s are about to be retired, whats left of the 1956 Hi-Levels are still going strong). Apparently the motors have that DC3/Soviet/jeep ultimate reliability junker thing going for them. They are scheduled for retirement in the next few years, though, as the newest orders come online (I think they're the last non-air-conditioned stock on the system).
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