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Old September 12th, 2015, 01:10 AM   #3241
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Old September 13th, 2015, 05:18 AM   #3242
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I used to have a map of the original 7 line plans. The train was supposed to run all the way under Roosevelt Avenue to Northern Blvd and Bayside. It was probably Robert Moses who killed that one.
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Old September 13th, 2015, 10:06 AM   #3243
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And so it happens - TODAY:
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/bus...e35028609.html

Congratulations NYC!
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Old September 13th, 2015, 01:29 PM   #3244
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Old September 13th, 2015, 04:59 PM   #3245
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42nd Street Shuttle is the shortest MTA subway line, with only 0,8 mi. 7 Flushing service runs parallel to this shuttle between Grand Central and Time Square stations.

Is It not better to shut down the 42nd Street Shuttle and to build a moving walkway inside the tunnel? In Sao Paulo, there is a 400-meters moving walkway between two subway stations.



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I believe a moving walkway is better that a shuttle train because low cost to maintain.
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Old September 13th, 2015, 05:15 PM   #3246
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42nd Street Shuttle is the shortest MTA subway line, with only 0,8 mi. 7 Flushing service runs parallel to this shuttle between Grand Central and Time Square stations.

Is It not better to shut down the 42nd Street Shuttle and to build a moving walkway inside the tunnel? In Sao Paulo, there is a 400-meters moving walkway between two subway stations.



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I believe a moving walkway is better that a shuttle train because low cost to maintain.
I don't think the cost to retrofit that tunnel would be worth it. The Shuttle does not run overnight...so it has less wear n tear then the rest of the system. Given the MTA's history with esculators or moving walks I don't think it would work out to well... However there are a few long transfer points like the 1-2-3 to L-F-M in Midtown Manhattan that could use those moving walkings...
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Old September 13th, 2015, 05:40 PM   #3247
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By the way, I saw it in the nycsubway.org website:


http://nycsubway.org/wiki/IRT_Times_...entral_Shuttle

In the Fifties, MTA proposed a conveyor belt system to replace the Shuttle bewteen Times Square and Grand Central. But, this project was abandoned due to high costs of construction.
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Old September 13th, 2015, 06:32 PM   #3248
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42nd Street Shuttle is the shortest MTA subway line, with only 0,8 mi. 7 Flushing service runs parallel to this shuttle between Grand Central and Time Square stations.

Is It not better to shut down the 42nd Street Shuttle and to build a moving walkway inside the tunnel? In Sao Paulo, there is a 400-meters moving walkway between two subway stations.

http://eeagora.blogspot.com.br/

I believe a moving walkway is better that a shuttle train because low cost to maintain.
Well, it used to be fully automated...there was a "fire" (many people think it was arson) at some point in the past, so that didn't last too long.
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Old September 13th, 2015, 06:46 PM   #3249
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Automated Times Square - Grande Central Shuttle was the only driverless train experience in Manhattan?
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Old September 13th, 2015, 06:52 PM   #3250
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Automated Times Square - Grande Central Shuttle was the only driverless train experience in Manhattan?
The only driverless, yes...
So far as I know.
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Old September 13th, 2015, 07:32 PM   #3251
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I used to have a map of the original 7 line plans. The train was supposed to run all the way under Roosevelt Avenue to Northern Blvd and Bayside. It was probably Robert Moses who killed that one.
If you could find it, would you please post it? That would be nice to have.

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And so it happens - TODAY:
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Congratulations NYC!
Hah!!!

And he said it wouldn't happen.

Hah!!!
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Just about every Rail Photographer in the NYC region is on the first train headed for Hudson Yards...as we speak.
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Just about every Rail Photographer in the NYC region is on the first train headed for Hudson Yards...as we speak.
Including you?
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I'm not that crazy , i'll do it tomorrow...
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#First train to Hudson yards. I took a video from the arrival at times square to exiting at Hudson yards. Now to use a computer with an SD card slot. Wasn't over crowded. Mostly railfans. Yards still in infancy but the moral of the story is: if you're a powerful enough developer, we will build the first new stop in decades to your doorstep smh
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Old September 13th, 2015, 09:34 PM   #3257
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#First train to Hudson yards. I took a video from the arrival at times square to exiting at Hudson yards. Now to use a computer with an SD card slot. Wasn't over crowded. Mostly railfans. Yards still in infancy but the moral of the story is: if you're a powerful enough developer, we will build the first new stop in decades to your doorstep smh
You can all the way up just for a new subway station , insanity...
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And this 7 Line Extension from Hudson Yards to New Jersey?


An official project or a "railfan trip"?


http://www.realtransit.org/htp12.html
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And this 7 Line Extension from Hudson Yards to New Jersey?


An official project or a "railfan trip"?


http://www.realtransit.org/htp12.html
A political daydream. I don't think too many railfans are even pushing for this (we want Gateway instead).
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Old September 13th, 2015, 10:18 PM   #3260
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It is true.

A PATH extension from Secaucus to Hoboken is far better than a MTA Subway extension to New Jersey. With this, a new tunnel under North River would not be necessary.
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