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Old July 1st, 2016, 06:33 AM   #3801
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Old July 5th, 2016, 07:20 AM   #3802
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Any other expansion besides the 2nd avenue line?
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Old July 5th, 2016, 02:15 PM   #3803
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Any other expansion besides the 2nd avenue line?
Try this link for official information about the NYC subway.

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Old July 5th, 2016, 05:02 PM   #3804
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Old July 6th, 2016, 07:44 PM   #3805
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Any other expansion besides the 2nd avenue line?
The (7) line extension to 34th Street-Hudson Yards opened in September 2015. The 2nd Avenue line is the only subway expansion project right now.

Mayor DiBlasio brought up a Utica Avenue line about two years ago, but nothing more has come out of it.


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The MTA is turning the Q52/Q53 buses in Queens into Select Bus Service (SBS) routes, the closest thing to Bus Rapid Transit the city has. They travel from Queens Blvd to the Rockaways on Woodhaven/Cross Bay Blvd.

From Liberty Avenue in Queens and to the Rockaways, the (A) train runs on former Long Island Rail Road property. However, the LIRR line north above Liberty Avenue is currently abandoned. There have been proposals to bring it back to service, either through a physical connection to the Queens Blvd local tracks, where the (M) and (R) run, or as a LIRR branch. In fact, the Queens Blvd line already has tunnels that were built specifically for that. They don't go far, but it is one less thing to worry about.

However, right now, there is a group called QueensWay trying to turn the abandoned section into a park and they have received quite a good amount of support.

Now what angers me is that the MTA isn't looking that hard into the proposal. They seem content is running the Q52/Q53 when the subway would be even faster.

The dark blue line is the current (A) line, and the light blue is the full Rockaway line (shown here connecting to the Queens Blvd line). Those black lines are any open railroad/subway tracks. The black line on the top is the LIRR main line. The one below is the Lower Montauk.





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Back in March, someone proposed an extension of the (3) line in Brooklyn. The line would be extended one stop from New Lots Avenue to Linden Blvd. It was based on the idea that some tracks in the New Lots Yard could be turned into a station.

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Old July 7th, 2016, 09:49 AM   #3806
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Mayor DiBlasio brought up a Utica Avenue line about two years ago, but nothing more has come out of it.

The MTA committed to an engineering study in the most recent capital plan.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 09:38 AM   #3807
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This is a shimmering chrome jewel. I do feel like something a little more neo-classical might have worked even better, but this does a good job of keeping an energy to the place that allows people to keep moving.

So long as it can be kept clean and well-maintained, I think that the subway has a winner on its hands. It makes an interesting counterpoint to its white sibling at the World Trade Center.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 08:07 PM   #3809
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Give this time and it will become a hub of life
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Old July 14th, 2016, 05:52 AM   #3810
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Old July 16th, 2016, 09:02 PM   #3811
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Large orders

The upcoming R179 order is not very large compared to the entire rolling stock, so it's lack of intrigue is forgivable. But the R211 order is huge, circa 1000 vehicles, nearly 1/6 of the entire system's stock, so they are far reaching and will be around for a while. Only 10 are the more outgoing open gangway "experiments", which aren't experimental anymore elsewhere. Let alone by the 2020s it might be even more imperative that this comfortable nudge of increased capacity (read: FREE EFFICIENCY) exists. New York is old and legendary and did it before it was cool, but why is it like bleeding molasses in wintertime in the wrong ways?
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Old July 16th, 2016, 11:23 PM   #3812
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New York is very much of the "once-bitten, twice-shy" mentality. The memory of the debacle with the R-40-42-44-46 trains is still very strong. Those trains were designed to be cutting-edge, but were found to have significant and costly flaws. Its worth noting that they will be out-lived by their immediate predecessors, the R-32 series, and that the R-62 and R-68 ordered in the 1980s were in some ways a regression.

New York City has a particularly demanding atmosphere in which to operate. Very few subway systems operate 24/7/365. Likewise, the age of the system and its location at a port means that rolling stock must deal with difficult routes and corrosive salt air. All together, this means that NYC is a somewhat uniquely punishing operational environment and technology proven elsewhere may still have difficulties there.

Finally, money is very tight right now, and it is difficult to justify more up-front costs compared to traditional designs regardless of extra capacity. Especially when they have to be debugged first.
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Old July 17th, 2016, 12:20 AM   #3813
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Yeah while it's surprising that they were getting new rolling stock at all during the worst decline period, I'm not impressed with anything from between the 60s (though R32 is all I know from then) and the 90s. Ah but in the age of information the debate shouldn't be so grey anymore.
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Old July 18th, 2016, 07:19 AM   #3814
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Videos taken on the New York Transit Museum's 40th Anniversary celebration. The R1/R9, the AB Standards and D-Type Triplex, the R38/R40/R42, and the BRT BU Elevated Cars (built between 1903 and 1907) ran special excursion trips between Brighton Beach and Kings Highway.

The second-to-last video is of an R160B train on the (Q) and the last one is an express ride on an R160B (N) train from Coney Island to 59th Street.

















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The Metropolitan Transportation Authority on Monday unveiled a slate of new upgrades to the subway system.

Governor Andrew Cuomo joined MTA officials at the Transit Museum in Downtown Brooklyn for the annoucement.

The upgrades include revamping more than a thousand subway cars and 31 stations.

That includes cars with wider doors and flip seats to increase the number of riders who can fit.

Cuomo says a modernized subway system will improve the lives of all New Yorkers.

"The MTA is the circulatory system for the metropolitan area. If you want to grow the metropolitan area, if you want to sustain the metropolitan area, the answer cannot be that people get in their cars. That just doesn't work," Cuomo said.

The MTA says it will be closing a number of stations for six months at a time for renovations.

The redesign is being funded by a $27 billion from the MTA's Capital Plan.
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Holy shit. Finally
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Old July 18th, 2016, 09:58 PM   #3817
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Mentioning 1000, they're clearly referring to the 211's, at least there will be some things to look forward to. Doors are great for quicker ingress and egress, but flip seats aren't as capacity increasing as open gangways.

Station upgrades at least look good in the renders. We'll see.
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Mentioning 1000, they're clearly referring to the 211's, at least there will be some things to look forward to. Doors are great for quicker ingress and egress, but flip seats aren't as capacity increasing as open gangways.

Station upgrades at least look good in the renders. We'll see.
Also of note:

1. It sounds like - reading between the lines - that the State may be ponying up the $8 billion in total, expected under this capital plan.

2. They will be experimenting with different cost control measures; particularly, setting strict deadlines and standards for contractors.

3. We will finally begin to see the agency stomach more full-shutdown work (e.g. Station modernizations)

4. The mobile ticketing/card replacement is still murky. I just hope what Cuomo's suggesting ends up deferring to what the MTA, itself, has been working to implement, since it sounds like Cubic (the group behind London's fare payment system) has made inroads in the procurement process.

The full rundown, here
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Bombardier won't be a part of this. They are completely disqualified at getting a shot at the R211 order because of delays with the R179 order.

http://www.nyctransitforums.com/foru...13#entry884008

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They have absolutely no chance at getting the R211 order. Yes they are disqualified completely. That means if they submit a bid for the contract MTA has no plans on evaluating it or even giving it consideration. The reason they are disqualified is because MTA is not happy at ALL with the R179 order, and the delays are costing the MTA about $50 Million dollars. At the end of the day MTA will be compensated, however, the last straw was the fact that the R179 should have been here about 2 weeks ago according to the revised schedule. It's wasn't. So from this day forward, they are disqualified until further notice. If the MTA could cancel the R179 order and double up the R211 order they would..... They are pissed like nothing I have seen in over a decade.
There will be at least two types of R211: Those dedicated for the main subway and another group that will be dedicated for the Staten Island Railway. This was earlier in the year, so some things might change.

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The MTA is now in the final stages of a firm design configuration for the R211 which will be delivered in 3 versions. A standard BMT/IND configuration, along with a SIR configuration, and a 10 car open-gangway prototype.

If the open-gangway prototype is sucessful, MTA will then move to implement the configuration with the new design in the future.

Award of the R211 contract is now expected for this year, and word is Bombardier will definitely bid on the contract alongside Kawasaki.

The R211 design will be a departure from the basic design we are used to with the R143/160/179. This will be the most futuristic, as well as advanced train MTA has aquired to date. The R211 will also be the basis for the next generation of NYC Transit Subway trains for the future. MTA now expects delivery of the R211 to begin right after the R179 procurement has completed delivery.
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750 open gangways

Why is it being reported everywhere today including on the new York website that up to 750 R211's will be open gangways. .. I sure hope this is true!!!!
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