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Old September 20th, 2016, 11:27 PM   #3941
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Talk of 7 train to Secaucus resurfaces in Port Authority study
http://www.politico.com/states/new-y...s-again-105607

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As West Side politicians and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey fight over the fate of a new bus terminal on Manhattan’s west side, the Port is expected to release the results of its bus terminal design competition this week.

At the same time, the Port plans to release a study arguing that an extension of the 7 train to Secaucus with a bus terminal alongside remains “the one major trans-Hudson investment that studies suggest could significantly reduce long-term Bus Terminal demand.”

The 7 train represents only a sliver of the report, but the fact that it bears mention at all is a testament to the endurance of an idea that, according to urban planner Sandy Hornick, “People have been talking about ... on and off since the 1920s.”

The chief proponent for that argument, real estate executive and Port Authority commissioner Scott Rechler, declined to comment for this article.

But it was upon the insistence of Rechler, then the Port’s vice-chairman, that in October 2015, the Port Authority agreed to commission a “Trans-Hudson Commuting Capacity Study” to look at alternate ways to meet the ever-growing demand for the current bus terminal, a facility that both New Jersey and West Side elected officials agree is in need of a replacement of some sort.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 01:13 AM   #3942
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Oh, not this again.

It may be a good idea, but it should be WAY down the list of priorities.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 06:00 AM   #3943
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This is just me, but isn't there talk about expanding capacity on PATH? How about serving Secaucus Junction with PATH instead?

Since it's already in NJ, it could get an additional branch from Journal Square, and perhaps an extension to 42nd Street.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 05:53 PM   #3944
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Do we have here in NYC the longest trains consisting of 8 cars 75 feet in length measuring 600 feet total? Are there any systems in the World running longer subway trains? I don't think so but if yes then where? Thanks for any help.
Hasn't the 7 line 11 cars ?
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Old September 21st, 2016, 07:24 PM   #3945
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This is just me, but isn't there talk about expanding capacity on PATH? How about serving Secaucus Junction with PATH instead?

Since it's already in NJ, it could get an additional branch from Journal Square, and perhaps an extension to 42nd Street.
The existing segments of PATH are at capacity as it is. Adding extensions would simply hinder operations unless new trunk lines are added.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 08:25 PM   #3946
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The existing segments of PATH are at capacity as it is. Adding extensions would simply hinder operations unless new trunk lines are added.
Even at peak it appears to have 6 minute intervals (on the 33rd street line). Does PATH have CBTC like the L and 7 trains?

If not, installing that to reduce train spacing would be a cheaper way of increasing capacity. As it is a largely independent system, installation should be no harder than on those lines.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 08:37 PM   #3947
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Yeah six minutes peak isn't that good even for non-cbtc. They should be able to double that frequency without a huge undertaking.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 08:43 PM   #3948
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Does PATH have CBTC like the L and 7 trains?
I believe the 33rd street line is installing CBTC and scheduled to be complete in 2018.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 08:46 PM   #3949
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Is that 6 minute intervals for each service? Or for both of them combined? The former seems more likely.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 09:04 PM   #3950
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The existing segments of PATH are at capacity as it is. Adding extensions would simply hinder operations unless new trunk lines are added.
Well, it really wouldn't be much different from extending current JSQ-33 trains to Secaucus Junction... If capacity is an issue, since 10-car enabling works are being done on the NWK-WTC route, perhaps some 10-car trains could go to Secaucus. Or the 33rd Street Line could also be upgraded to 10-cars, along with cross-platform interchange with the subway at 14th St (but a man can dream, can he)

Also, by the looks of it CBTC will be implemented across the entire PATH network, so all they might need is more trains. Personally I think the trains running to 33rd St could possibly be lengthened to 12 cars, but IDK about that...
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The MTA is still promising that the Second Avenue Subway will be running in three months' time. But the naysayers continue to voice their doubts.

http://secondavenuesagas.com/2016/09...bway-jeopardy/
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Old September 30th, 2016, 12:25 AM   #3953
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The MTA is still promising that the Second Avenue Subway will be running in three months' time. But the naysayers continue to voice their doubts.

http://secondavenuesagas.com/2016/09...bway-jeopardy/
The line was originally proposed in 1919. We can live with a few weeks delay.
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Hasn't the 7 line 11 cars ?
11 51-foot cars is still 561 feet, shy of the B division standard of 600 foot trains.
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Video: Second Ave. Subway plays host to test trains
http://secondavenuesagas.com/2016/10...t-test-trains/

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Via the tireless Max Diamond (better known to the internet as DJ Hammers) comes proof that yes, Virginia, there is a Second Ave. Subway. The eagle-eyed videographer spotted a series of test trains running north past the 63rd St. station on Lexington, a future transfer point between the Second Avenue’s Q train and the F train.

The test trains are a key element in prepping the line for its eventually opening as they run to ensure proper clearances in stations and tunnels (including gaps between the train and platform, as we saw at South Ferry in 2009), a functional signal system and a power stress test, as one worker noted on Instagram. This is certainly good news for those New Yorkers, like my dad, who have long since stated that they won’t believe the Second Ave. Subway exists until they actually ride a train, but it’s not clear if this good news for the MTA’s slowly shrinking timeline. As recently as two weeks ago, the agency’s own consultants noted that the pace of testing is still lagging behind the line’s planned opening prior to the end of 2016.

For now, though, trains are starting to roll without passengers. It’s a first step toward finalizing the first segment of a subway line over 80 years in the making.
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the subway map now shows where trains are skipping stops due to construction



http://web.mta.info/nyct/maps/subwaymap.pdf

An update on construction of new Arthur Kill station on the Staten Island Railway

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Always I have surprised the quantity of cars that use some trains in New York (11 cars).
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Old October 13th, 2016, 04:21 PM   #3960
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Wow. That is one map crammed to the max with information. Cognitive overload ftw.
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