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Old November 11th, 2017, 01:09 PM   #4601
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Anyone who believes that an R179 will enter revenue service by the end of this year can keep dreaming. It's not happening. The earliest I see an R179 entering revenue service is January, 2018.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 02:53 PM   #4602
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Anyone who believes that an R179 will enter revenue service by the end of this year can keep dreaming. It's not happening. The earliest I see an R179 entering revenue service is January, 2018.
I don't know. The trains are pretty much bare of test equipment. The 8 car sets preforming simulated stop testing on the C and J right now. I think it's the 10 car set that really struggling.

There's still time for me to be pleasantly surprised.
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Old November 13th, 2017, 03:01 AM   #4603
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Exactly. And as long as there are problems and setbacks with testing, people should not assume they will be in revenue service at a snap of a finger. My prediction is the first R179s will enter revenue service some time between March and June of 2018. Even March/April, 2018 may be too early given the current situation.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 04:27 PM   #4604
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And I am pleasantly surprised.

It's official, the R179 will begin its 30-day revenue test tomorrow on the J. Running from Jamaica Center to Hewes Street due to work on the Bridge.

I will be on that train. And I hope these railfans know to shower lol.

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Old November 18th, 2017, 08:25 PM   #4605
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/n...re-delays.html



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How Politics and Bad Decisions Starved New York’s Subways

Disruptions and delays have roiled the system this year. But the crisis was
long in the making, fueled by a litany of errors, a Times investigation shows.

By BRIAN M. ROSENTHAL, EMMA G. FITZSIMMONS and MICHAEL LaFORGIA



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Old November 19th, 2017, 01:43 AM   #4606
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And I am pleasantly surprised.

It's official, the R179 will begin its 30-day revenue test tomorrow on the J. Running from Jamaica Center to Hewes Street due to work on the Bridge.

I will be on that train. And I hope these railfans know to shower lol.
Did HARTRide just get stuffed?
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Old November 19th, 2017, 01:46 AM   #4607
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Did HARTRide just get stuffed?
The official memo is out and we've all seen it. On the transit forums and transit related facebook pages.

Definitely happening lol
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Old November 19th, 2017, 07:16 PM   #4608
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Perphaps I jumped the gun a few days too early, but the R179s are in service now on the J!

I don't know where people are getting the Spring/Summer 2018 from.
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She failed. Though it wasn't her fault, the clock restarts.

Reason? While passing through 121st Street (which is under renovation), it hit a crate which activated the emergency brakes. Train was discharged at 111th Street.

So the R179 is out of service for the rest of the day.

EDIT: Back in service as of 1:12pm.

EDIT 2: Failed for real later that evening. Door malfunction. Good thing the failures are happening now. Rather than it get through 30 days and on that last night, an issue restarts the clock.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 07:53 PM   #4610
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/n...ed-subway.html

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Toronto’s Transit Chief Named to Lead New York’s Troubled Subway

By MARC SANTORANOV. 21, 2017

With New York’s century-old subway system in crisis, plagued by delays and in need of major repairs, Andy Byford was brought in from Toronto on Tuesday to take over the agency that oversees the city’s buses and subways.
The appointment of Mr. Byford as the president of New York City Transit comes on the heels of series of changes in leadership at the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which oversees the subway system, aimed at restoring accountability and changing a culture that for years has left the subway without adequate funding or support...
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Old November 21st, 2017, 09:44 PM   #4611
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Old November 21st, 2017, 09:46 PM   #4612
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Let the MTA-salaried forurmers explain this.
We all know the why. Everyone knows the why. The fact that no one wants do do anything is the problem. And the public cant fully advocate for the right sides because almost none actually know where the problems really lie.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 10:24 PM   #4613
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Mascabrother, can you post a link to where you got that ontime schedule? Thank you.
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Old November 21st, 2017, 11:19 PM   #4614
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Miami has a major subway? Where have they been hiding it?
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Old November 21st, 2017, 11:43 PM   #4615
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How Politics and Bad Decisions Starved New York’s Subways

Daily ridership has nearly doubled in the past two decades to 5.7 million, but New York is the only major city in the world with fewer miles of track than it had during World War II. Efforts to add new lines have been hampered by generous agreements with labor unions and private contractors that have inflated construction costs to five times the international average.

New York’s subway now has the worst on-time performance of any major rapid transit system in the world, according to data collected from the 20 biggest. Just 65 percent of weekday trains reach their destinations on time, the lowest rate since the transit crisis of the 1970s, when graffiti-covered cars regularly broke down.

Signal problems and car equipment failures occur twice as frequently as a decade ago, but hundreds of mechanic positions have been cut because there is not enough money to pay them — even though the average total compensation for subway managers has grown to nearly $300,000 a year.



A lot of corruption in the MTA, OMG, this is delicious.
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Old November 22nd, 2017, 12:57 AM   #4617
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In fairness the A train is longer than a few of the metro systems on that list, no others run 24/7. A few of them were built in the last few decades. New York could learn lessons from places like Paris though - upgrade and automate. Saying that though Paris has the option to upgrade a line at a time, and the longest there is only 15 miles (counting both branches of the 13). No idea how you would do that in NYC without serious disruption. If it cost a similar amount to the Paris Metro Line 1 costs you’re looking at a cool $18bn, although that’d be spreading construction out over ~200 years
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Old November 22nd, 2017, 01:20 AM   #4618
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Glad we got Byford but I'm not expecting much with Cuomo in office.
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Old November 22nd, 2017, 01:58 AM   #4619
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In fairness the A train is longer than a few of the metro systems on that list, no others run 24/7. A few of them were built in the last few decades. New York could learn lessons from places like Paris though - upgrade and automate. Saying that though Paris has the option to upgrade a line at a time, and the longest there is only 15 miles (counting both branches of the 13). No idea how you would do that in NYC without serious disruption. If it cost a similar amount to the Paris Metro Line 1 costs you’re looking at a cool $18bn, although that’d be spreading construction out over ~200 years
Did you read the article? The problem is not that the New York Subway needs to be automated, it's that funding has been cut while ridership has soared, money has been spectacularly misspent and corruption abounds. Besides the breakdowns and delays, New York has the grimiest stations in the civilized world and is only now planning things like RFID ticketing or open-gangway trains, which have been standard everywhere else for years. So I wouldn't hold my breath for automation (and think of the unions).
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