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Old March 7th, 2008, 04:19 AM   #601
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Well said. I'm sure if ny was the capital of the U.S we'd be twice as important than we are today...
Albany hates us! They would rather use one of, if not the center of the world, to pay for the dying rust belt that is upstate.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 11:32 PM   #602
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Proposed NYC West side Subway Service..

I WAS JUST READING ON WIKIPEDIA WEBSITE ABOUT THE 7 TRAIN EXTENSION (CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION) AND ACCORDING TO IT THE SERVICE TRACKS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT AS FAR SOUTH AS 11 AVENUE AT W.23 ST IN THE CHELSEA NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I WOULD WONDER IF THE MTA WOULD EVER CONSIDER AN EXTENSION OF THE BMT "L" TRAIN AT 8 AVENUE & W.14 ST WEST UNDER 14 STREET TO 11 AVE THEN NORTH TO MEET THE 7 TRAIN AT ITS NEW TERMINAL. HAS ANYONE EVER READ ANYTHING ON SUCH A PROPOSAL..I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK..
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Old May 14th, 2008, 12:55 AM   #603
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dude, have you ever heard of 'caps lock' ?
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Old May 14th, 2008, 05:43 AM   #604
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There's also already a thread for this... http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...395081&page=11
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Old May 14th, 2008, 11:37 AM   #605
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Old May 21st, 2008, 02:12 PM   #606
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Public bathrooms in NYC subway close at midnight
21 May 2008

NEW YORK (AP) - New York City bar-hoppers heading home may want to heed nature's call before getting on the subway -- or suffer for the entire ride.

New York City Transit has been shutting the 78 public bathrooms in the subway system between the hours of midnight and 5 a.m. for the past few weeks. Officials say the idea is to guarantee cleaning crew access during those hours.

Straphanger advocate Gene Russianoff says the bathrooms should seldom be closed.

Subway riders complain that the timing of the closures coincides with the hours that bars and clubs get out.

Rider Herby Campbell pointed out that the alternative to the public facilities -- grabbing a corner for relief -- could get you locked up.
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Old May 21st, 2008, 02:14 PM   #607
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NYC subway's elevators, escalators are troubled
19 May 2008

NEW YORK (AP) - New York City Transit spent nearly $1 billion to install elevators and escalators in the subways since the early 1990s, yet one of every six was out of service for more than a month last year, according to a published report.

Two-thirds of the subway elevators had at least one breakdown last year in which passengers were trapped inside, The New York Times reported Monday.

"This organization is very, very good at subway car maintenance; it's very good at bus maintenance. But maintaining auxiliary equipment it hasn't done as well," said Howard H. Roberts Jr., president of New York City Transit. "I think that we are in the process of trying to create the same competence in elevator and escalator maintenance that we have in buses and subway cars."

The system has about 200 elevator and escalator mechanics, who receive as little as four weeks of training, a fraction of what they would receive elsewhere, the report said.

"They don't have enough competent people with the proper training," said Michele O'Toole, president of J. Martin Associates, which the transit agency hired in 2006 to evaluate its elevator operations but has since quit.

In 1990, about 48 elevators were in the subway system. Today, there are 167 in 62 stations, with about two dozen more under construction and many more planned.

Five million people ride the subway in New York City every day.
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Old May 21st, 2008, 02:15 PM   #608
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New York subway cars find new life on ocean floor

OCEAN CITY, Md, May 19 (Reuters) - After four decades carrying millions of New Yorkers, 44 of the city's subway cars are now home to millions of fish.

The worn-out cars were dumped on Friday into the Atlantic Ocean, 21 miles off the Maryland coast, to create an artificial reef, designed to attract fish for the state's lucrative sport-fishing industry.

"These reefs provide quality habitat for marine life off our coast which benefits not only the environment but also local businesses," said Ocean City Mayor Rick Meehan.

The 18-ton stainless steel cars -- minus wheels, windows and doors -- were stacked two-high on a barge where a bucket crane with a specially designed hydraulic lift picked them up one by one and dropped them into 90 feet (30 metres) of water.

As journalists watched from five smaller boats, the cars landed on their sides with a bang, and blew whale-like jets of spray as air escaped from their interiors. They disappeared a few seconds later beneath the gray-green waters.

The cars, dating from 1964, were among 1,662 that have been retired by New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority and will be used by a number of states on the U.S. East Coast to create the reefs to buoy local fishing industries.

Maryland plans four more subway-car reefs and since 2001 others have been created in Delaware and New Jersey waters from an earlier batch of about 1,200 cars released by the MTA.

Jeff Tinsman, Delaware's reef program coordinator, said a 600-car reef in that state's waters had increased the local fish population by 400 times, and boosted the number of angling trips to 13,000 a year from 300 before the reef was created.

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The reefs attract fish because they provide protection from predators, and generate food like mussels, shrimp and crabs that quickly colonize the structure. About 95 percent of the seabed off the U.S. mid-Atlantic coast is naturally bare sand, which is much less likely to attract fish, Tinsman said.

Officials hope the new Maryland reef will become home to such inshore species as black sea bass, tautog and summer flounder. These in turn should attract game like marlin, tuna and dolphin and the recreational fishermen, who contribute about $1 billion a year to Maryland's economy.

Martin Gary, a fisheries biologist with the Maryland Department of Natural Resources, said some of the targeted species have been depleted by overfishing. He promised that officials will take steps to prevent that from happening again around the new reef by imposing rules on the size and number of fish that can be caught, and the seasons when they can be taken.

Gary said the new reef, at a favorite local fishing ground called Jackspot, is deeper and farther from the shore than other subway-car reefs, and will hopefully attract inshore fish and the deep-water migratory species that feed on them.

Any environmentally hazardous materials including PCBs and petroleum lubricants were removed from the cars by the MTA at a cost of $8,000 per car to comply with federal government regulations.

The nonprofit Ocean City Reef Foundation paid $600 per car to transport them 30-hours from New York City to create the reef. In their final resting place -- where they are expected to last 40 years or so -- the subway cars begin another useful life, Gary said. "It's hard to believe they were in service as little as 10 days ago."
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Old May 24th, 2008, 04:34 AM   #609
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London being the capital and largest city of the country can suck the funds it wants to out of the UK's treasury. New York City is not even the capital of its state, let alone the country.

Simple enough. Does not make it right, but, everyone loves to treat this city like a cash cow, and we lack the ability at the state and federal level to get the infrastructure we need.
London also has over 12m people within the conurbation alone (that is the Greater London + M25 fringe suburbs), over 9m commuting into the City alone. It has one of the most congested transport networks in the world, even tube lines that run every two minutes can't handle demand. Although it wrongly takes such a disproportionate amount of money from the national budget, London is just as disproportional by density and population, necessitating it.
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Old May 24th, 2008, 04:58 AM   #610
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London also has over 12m people within the conurbation alone (that is the Greater London + M25 fringe suburbs), over 9m commuting into the City alone. It has one of the most congested transport networks in the world, even tube lines that run every two minutes can't handle demand. Although it wrongly takes such a disproportionate amount of money from the national budget, London is just as disproportional by density and population, necessitating it.
Yeah well New York has 20 million in the conurbation and 8 million within city limits. It needs massive money for budgets but it doesn't get it because it must pass through two levels of bureaucracy for funding.
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Old May 25th, 2008, 09:49 PM   #611
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Yeah well New York has 20 million in the conurbation and 8 million within city limits. It needs massive money for budgets but it doesn't get it because it must pass through two levels of bureaucracy for funding.
However the combined totals for commuter rail and subway ridership in New York City are lower than those for the Greater London area.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 01:24 PM   #612
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I doubt many cities have enough funds to keep their systems running without any shortfall. Reality is what people want will never reach what is available.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 07:25 AM   #613
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NY transit agency rescinds perk for ex-board members
29 May 2008

NEW YORK (AP) - The free ride is over for Metropolitan Transportation Authority Board members, who for decades have enjoyed lifetime passes for the agency's mass-transit system, bridges and tunnels.

Under pressure from state Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, the nation's largest mass-transit agency said Thursday it planned to rescind former board members' free-travel perks and restrict current members to using the privilege only for official business.

The announcement came as Cuomo cracked down on a long-standing tradition of providing free E-ZPasses -- electronic toll-payment systems -- for board members at the MTA and various other public agencies. State Thruway Authority board members agreed Wednesday to stop using their free E-ZPasses.

"I think it's very important that we say to government on all levels, 'This is a new day in New York, and public integrity is important ... and also the public perception,'" Cuomo said at a news conference.

The perk for MTA board members -- many of them multimillionaires -- has drawn stiff criticism at a time when many commuters are absorbing toll and transit-fare increases that took effect in March.

MTA board members' free E-ZPasses work only on the MTA's own nine bridges and tunnels, where tolls are as high as $10 round-trip, spokesman Jeremy Soffin said.

Until now, the unpaid board members also have ridden free on the agency's subways, buses and Metro-North and Long Island Rail Road commuter trains.

It's unclear how much the perk has cost in free fares and tolls, Soffin said.

All but one of the 22 current board members and 34 ex-members have E-ZPasses, Soffin said. Some have more than one, such as former MTA Chairman Peter S. Kalikow, a real estate developer and car collector with eight of the passes. He plans to turn them in, saying he has always abided by the law, spokesman Martin J. McLaughlin said.

The perks date at least to the 1950s, Soffin said. But after the Daily News reported on the practice Tuesday, Cuomo's office told the MTA and Thruway Authority to end it, citing legislation specifying that the agencies' board members serve "without salary or other compensation."

"Just because it's been going on for a long time doesn't make it right," the attorney general said Thursday.

MTA Chairman H. Dale Hemmerdinger told The New York Times Wednesday that the agency would ask a court to decide whether the travel perks amounted to compensation.

But the agency concluded Thursday that "we wanted to just make a policy change," Soffin said. Board members are expected to give it formal consideration at a meeting next month.

The plan would let current board members keep using their E-ZPasses and fare privileges for "actual and necessary expenses." Such costs would not be considered compensation, Cuomo said.

The MTA doesn't plan to seek reimbursements for the perks used so far, Soffin said.

Cuomo has made a point of going after questionable government freebies during his 16 months in office. He is probing possible pension fraud at school districts and local governments across the state, saying some have improperly let outside consultants qualify for state pensions.

He also has told the MTA and about 100 other agencies to stop giving board members a break on health care benefits. The MTA had been paying the bulk of health insurance premiums for four board members, but it has stopped doing so.

The agency's vast transit system carries more than 8.2 million riders on an average weekday. More than 300 million vehicles a year use its bridges and tunnels, which include the Triborough and Verrazano-Narrows bridges and the Brooklyn Battery and Queens Midtown tunnels.

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Yeah well New York has 20 million in the conurbation and 8 million within city limits. It needs massive money for budgets but it doesn't get it because it must pass through two levels of bureaucracy for funding.
THANKYOU so many people are so ignorant and assume that the subway is just not mantained. Over 1 billion people ride the subway every year. OF COURSE IT'S GOING 2 GET DIRTY. The government does need to spend more on maintnance though.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 08:37 PM   #615
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I love the look of NYC Subway.
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THANKYOU so many people are so ignorant and assume that the subway is just not mantained. Over 1 billion people ride the subway every year. OF COURSE IT'S GOING 2 GET DIRTY. The government does need to spend more on maintnance though.
Moscow and Tokyo metros are far cleaner and have more people using them.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 07:20 AM   #617
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But they aren't open 24 hours a day. Nor is New York the capital of the US.
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The New York subway is very dirty given its age and usage. There are many busier systems that are just as extensive but have much less a sanitary problem. This is consistent even on the streets though, as I think this is a general problem with the US. Beyond Midtown, many stations are in dire need of repairs, a paint job, and roof fixes. Some of the stations I've been to around GWB and even Brooklyn are downright scary - you'd think the whole station would cave in any day.
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But they aren't open 24 hours a day. Nor is New York the capital of the US.
Stop making excuses, it's dirty because it's poorly maintained.
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Dirtiness and poorly maintained are 2 different things. The Time Square station might be dirty but it isn't poorly maintained. However the first stop in Queens on the G train is poorly maintained. So don't go off saying its poorly maintained due to dirtiness.
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