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Old January 1st, 2009, 02:13 AM   #821
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Construction of the 2nd Avenue Subway and the 7 line extension.
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Old January 1st, 2009, 02:32 AM   #822
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How are those projects going? By the sounds of it the 2nd Ave subway won't be finished until about 2020.
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Old January 1st, 2009, 03:10 AM   #823
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And what intresting will happend in 2009 in rolling stock?
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 06:00 PM   #824
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NY SUbway needs stimulus funding to modernize and expand the system.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 11:14 PM   #825
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Apart from the 2nd Ave subway and the Line 7 extension, what expansion of the NY system has been proposed or is considered a pretty good idea?
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 07:42 PM   #826
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I'm watching in close anticipation how JFK and La Guardia can be better connected to the rail network.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 03:34 AM   #827
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I'm watching in close anticipation how JFK and La Guardia can be better connected to the rail network.
JFK is connected to the LIRR and subway system via a rail line.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 04:42 AM   #828
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Apart from the 2nd Ave subway and the Line 7 extension, what expansion of the NY system has been proposed or is considered a pretty good idea?
Fulton Street Transit Center and East Side Access if you count them.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 10:29 AM   #829
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JFK is connected to the LIRR and subway system via a rail line.
I've traveled with the JFK airport train and although the stations and the trains are very comfortable, it's an isolated system. You _have_ to transfer to alternative forms of transportation if you want to actually leave the airport.
That wouldn't fly in Western Europe and it struck me as a little backward.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 03:32 PM   #830
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Fulton Street Transit Center and East Side Access if you count them.
And vague plans for a triborough line
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Old January 6th, 2009, 06:46 AM   #831
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That Triboro subway line is a great idea. NYers shouldn't have to go through Manhattan to get to the other boroughs.
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Old January 6th, 2009, 08:51 AM   #832
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NY Transit officials considering $3 subway fare
23 December 2008

NEW YORK (AP) - Get ready for $3 subway and bus fares.

That's a worst-case-scenario being considered by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which must close a projected $1.2 billion shortfall next year.

The MTA released a list of proposed maximum fares and tolls in a notice providing the schedule for eight public hearings to discuss the planned increases and service cuts.

Besides the single ride subway and bus hike from $2 to $3, the authority is looking at raising the weekly MetroCard from $25 to $32 and the 30-day unlimited ride MetroCard from $81 to $105.

Tolls on MTA-operated bridges and tunnels, including the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel and the Robert F. Kennedy Bridge --formerly the Triborough Bridge - could rise to $7.

The hearing notice also said some fares on Metro-North and the Long Island Rail Road could rise by as much as a third.

The first hearing is scheduled for Jan. 14.
I have not taken the NY subway for years but it seems crazy to consider a 50% increase in single journey fares when the city is trying to encourage more public transport usage. I guess this is the ambit figure given before any hearings so that any lessor price increase seems like a compromise?

Increase fares too much and you reduce the pax esp now that gas fares have decreased. Perhaps a smaller, roughly 10% increase with the weekly ($28) and 30 day ($90) MetroCards still gives good value for money but keep the single journey fare as is to encourage irregular users. One would assume someone in the MTA has done the figures of optimising pax numbers with various fare increase scenarios?
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 03:35 PM   #833
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Duo to visit 468 NYC subway stations in record try
22 January 2009

NEW YORK (AP) - A pair of mathematically minded distance runners say they plan to break the speed record for the fastest dash through New York City's subway system.

Co-workers Chris Solarz and Matt Ferrisi say they've developed software to help them lay out the best route to take Thursday in their bid to set a new Guinness world record.

They will have to visit each of the 468 subway stations in the system using only local trains. The current record is 24 hours, 54 minutes and 3 seconds.

They plan to start at the Far Rockaway-Mott Avenue station in Queens. Their last stop is the Canarsie-Rockaway Station in Brooklyn. They'll take along with them chewy candies, energy bars and mixed nuts.

Ferrisi says the duo has been studying the system for six months.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 04:19 PM   #834
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sweek, where did you get the info for the proposed triborough line? i am interested to learn more!
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 04:31 AM   #835
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sweek, where did you get the info for the proposed triborough line? i am interested to learn more!

Here are some good links....

http://transit.frumin.net/trx/TriboroRX

http://frumin.net/ation/2007/06/le_triboro_rx.html
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 10:13 AM   #836
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And vague plans for a triborough line
I really don't understand the letters and numbers NYC uses to describe its subway lines. Can someone attempt to explain it to me?
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 11:24 AM   #837
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It's because different companies used to run separate metro systems in NY in the past.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 11:44 AM   #838
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It's because different companies used to run separate metro systems in NY in the past.
Well, may be now the metro lines should be renamed...
In my opinion the best should be:
Lines 1-2-3 = Red Line (with A,B,C branches)
Lines 4-5-6 = Green line (with A,B,C branches)
Lines A-C-E = Blue line... etc, etc.
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Old January 24th, 2009, 05:30 AM   #839
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I have not taken the NY subway for years but it seems crazy to consider a 50% increase in single journey fares when the city is trying to encourage more public transport usage. I guess this is the ambit figure given before any hearings so that any lessor price increase seems like a compromise?

Increase fares too much and you reduce the pax esp now that gas fares have decreased. Perhaps a smaller, roughly 10% increase with the weekly ($28) and 30 day ($90) MetroCards still gives good value for money but keep the single journey fare as is to encourage irregular users. One would assume someone in the MTA has done the figures of optimising pax numbers with various fare increase scenarios?
They most likely have; if you search around sites like http://www.secondavenuesagas.com, you can find plenty of news about the fare hike. The city and state governments (especially its politicians) have been depriving the MTA of much-needed funds for years and this combined with the MTA's risky borrow-now-and-pay-later-without-planning-too-carefully for its renovation plans in the 80s and 90s (although renovations were sorely needed) creates a projected $1.4 billion deficit. This figure will only continue to climb as the economy stays this way, since the MTA counted on real estate tax income to support its operations since other sources of income (other than from fares) are very small. The MTA really has no choice-if they do not raise fares then they will most certainly have to shut down the system sometime later this year.

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It's because different companies used to run separate metro systems in NY in the past.
That's true; the Interboro Rapid Transit (IRT) operated the 1-7 lines, Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit (BMT) and Independent Subway (IND) operated the lettered lines. For more info, visit this great resource: http://www.nycsubway.org or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway
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Old January 24th, 2009, 06:35 AM   #840
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I really don't understand the letters and numbers NYC uses to describe its subway lines. Can someone attempt to explain it to me?
There were originally three companies that ran subways in NYC. The first was the IRT, which uses a different rolling stock standard than the rest of the system. IRT lines are denoted by numbers (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, formerly 9, S Times Square-Grand Central shuttle). Then next was the BMT which used relatively standard measurements for rolling stock and evolved out of a commuter rail-type network. The IND was the last and was run by the city. The BMT and IND networks are for the most part interchangeable and use lettered lines (A, B, C, D, E, F, G, J, formerly K, L, M, N, Q, R, S [Franklin Avenue and Far Rockaway shuttles), T in the future, V, W, Z).

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Well, may be now the metro lines should be renamed...
In my opinion the best should be:
Lines 1-2-3 = Red Line (with A,B,C branches)
Lines 4-5-6 = Green line (with A,B,C branches)
Lines A-C-E = Blue line... etc, etc.
You'd need to have what the RER and the tube have, train departure indicators, for that to work. It's too confusing at the moment and express trains mess up the whole idea of colour coding. You'd have to specify express in certain boroughs and termini simultaneously whch numbers/letters can do.
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