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Old July 9th, 2009, 02:46 PM   #981
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Old July 11th, 2009, 08:16 AM   #982
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Wow, what an awesome video. It's amazing how formal the attire was!
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Old July 12th, 2009, 07:06 AM   #983
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The stations looked quite good back then .. but now are in desperate need of renovation.

Wonder how could they get so close to film the train in front. Did they have signaling systems at the time?
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Old July 12th, 2009, 10:49 PM   #984
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The stations looked quite good back then .. but now are in desperate need of renovation.

Wonder how could they get so close to film the train in front. Did they have signaling systems at the time?
Same could be said about how HK bus drivers drive...stop virtually less than a foot away from the bus in front! (Just good, but aggressive, driving!)
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Old July 13th, 2009, 07:50 AM   #985
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The camera platform was on the front of a New York subway train following another train on the same track. Lighting is provided by a specially constructed work car on a parallel track.
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Old July 17th, 2009, 04:52 PM   #986
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NY's governor taps ex-CFO, London expert to lead MTA

NEW YORK, July 14 (Reuters) - New York Governor David Paterson on Tuesday nominated Jay Walder, the former chief financial officer of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, to the MTA's top two posts, combining the roles of chairman and chief executive for a six-year appointment.

Walder, a London-based partner with management consultant McKinsey & Co, rose to become CFO of the nation's largest mass transit agency when he worked there from 1983 to 1995.

In early May, the Democratic governor accepted the resignation of CEO Elliot Sander. That left Chairman Dale Hemmerdinger as the sole senior official to oversee the transition to a new chief.

The Democratic-led state Senate must confirm Walder for the MTA's top spots. Some Democrats have bashed the MTA for misleading the public about its finances and Paterson has made its reforms a signature issue.

In a statement, Paterson praised Walder for overseeing the "wildly successful" Oystercard, which grew into Europe's "largest contactless smartcard." Walder also served on a team that helped London's Underground save $2 billion, he said.

Though Walder will serve at the governor's pleasure, Paterson said combining the MTA's top two jobs would give New Yorkers "one independent leader."

Walder told reporters that restoring the public's trust in the MTA and securing its new capital program were among his top priorities. His list included developing new lines.

The MTA is still living down a former state comptroller's charge that it misled the public by keeping two sets of books. With its share of real estate and other taxes shrinking with the recession, it recently raised fares for buses, subways and commuter railroads, and increased bridge and tunnel tolls.

The state Legislature eased the severity of the fare hikes and service cuts the MTA had said would otherwise be needed by approving a new payroll tax for local employers. But lawmakers only provided funds for two years of capital investments, not the usual five-year plan.

Walder said it was too soon for him to make specific recommendations, but he estimated that the MTA has invested $70 billion in its system since New York City's mid-1970s fiscal crisis. He recalled the surprise and disbelief that straphangers displayed when the first subway cars without that era's distinctive graffiti went into service.

"Everybody looked around like they were in the wrong place, like they had dropped down from Mars," he said, contrasting the new graffiti-free subway cars with the old ones, which often had malfunctioning doors, for example.
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Old July 20th, 2009, 06:40 PM   #987
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Best ride in town is New York City's No. 7 train
15 July 2009

NEW YORK (AP) - What's the best ride in town? The No. 7 train.

The results are in for the Straphangers Campaign's State of the Subways report. The advocacy group released the annual report Wednesday. It ranks each of New York's 21 subway lines from best to worst.

The lines are graded by analyzing a number of factors: the frequency of breakdowns, cleanliness, the chances of getting a seat during rush hour, the regularity of scheduled service, and quality of in-car announcements.

The C train came in last place, ranking below average in every category.

Both the 7 and the L line, which came in a close second in the report, are part of a pilot program that puts individual managers in charge of specific lines.
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Old July 20th, 2009, 06:47 PM   #988
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Old July 22nd, 2009, 07:14 AM   #989
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Second Avenue Subway Keeps on Slipping Into the Future
by Ben Fried on July 21, 2009

Following another revision to the Second Avenue Subway construction timetable, the first phase of the mega-project remains, as ever, about seven or eight years away from completion. Pete Donohue reports in the Daily News:
The Metropolitan Transportation Authority has finished an in-depth analysis of the work schedule, budget and potential hurdles for the long-awaited addition to the system, sources told the News.
The conclusion: the official completion date for phase one of the project should be pushed from June 2015 to December 2016, with possible future delays placing the opening in the summer of 2017, the sources said...
The original schedule for the first phase projected a 2012 completion date but MTA officials have pushed the date back several times over the years -- most recently in March 2008.
I'm lucky. I don't have to put up with sardine-style rush-hour commuting on the Lexington Avenue line. But if I did, I'd want relief as soon as possible. Eight years is a long time to ask people to wait, especially when a viable alternative like physically separated Bus Rapid Transit can be provided much sooner, at much less expense. And if experience is any guide, this won't be the last time the Second Avenue Subway gets pushed back, either.

ITDP director Walter Hook said it well in an interview with Streetsblog this February:
I don't know why Japanese and Chinese cities can roll out 10 miles of new subway line a year, and the richest city in the world has been trying and failing to build the Second Avenue Subway since the 1960s. But I've lived in this town a long time, and I am skeptical. The optimists are telling us that we will have a Second Avenue Subway between 125th Street and 63rd Street by 2015 and only after we spend $4 to $5 billion. So this means we are probably talking about 2018 or 2020, and $10 billion. The Second Avenue Subway would be great, it’s needed, it would have higher demand than almost any other metro line in the country. At those volumes, metros are often a good investment. But will it happen?
The MTA has a huge hole in its next capital program, with billions in funding for core maintenance still unaccounted for. That comes first, no matter what. If our legislative goons in Albany can't muster the will to fund mega-projects, too, we can still expand the system: On the east side of Manhattan, the right BRT configuration would carry almost as many commuters as the Second Avenue Subway, for a fraction of the cost.

===Why wait? The optimal BRT configuration on First and Second Avenues would convert multiple traffic lanes to physically separated busways:::>

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Old July 22nd, 2009, 07:40 AM   #990
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BRT is not the right idea. This is the United States; no matter how fancy the bus, there's still the stigma.

The SAS just has the most rotten timing imaginable. NYC would roll out track just as fast as E. Asia if cash didn't have to go through DC and Albany first.
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Old July 22nd, 2009, 04:09 PM   #991
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If the SAS were a bank, it would be no problem at all. 10 billion? Peanuts.

The negative attitude towards busses is not typical for the US. As UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher said: "A man who, beyond the age of 26, finds himself on a bus can count himself as a failure."
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Old July 22nd, 2009, 08:29 PM   #992
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Old July 22nd, 2009, 08:39 PM   #993
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The negative attitude towards busses is not typical for the US. As UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher said: "A man who, beyond the age of 26, finds himself on a bus can count himself as a failure."
As big a failure as today's British economy thanks to the policies instituted by that bitch.
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BRT is not the right idea. This is the United States; no matter how fancy the bus, there's still the stigma.

The SAS just has the most rotten timing imaginable. NYC would roll out track just as fast as E. Asia if cash didn't have to go through DC and Albany first.
Well, eating organic food seemed like a ridiculous idea a little over a decade ago...but just recently a new survey found that organic food sales are exploding.

What stigma? Buses are used to connect to subways and for cross-borough travel here in NYC all the time. True, BRT is slower than subway and is more affected by weather conidtions, but the proposal of Bus Rapid Transit takes a fresh approach at bus travel by having as much of a physically separated lane for buses. Think about it: along with prioritized signaling, attractive stations, longer distances btwn stops, and paid-before-boarding will make BRT run faster than conventional buses and close to subway functionality.

And here's another reason to support BRT over a new subway route: wouldn't you want your taxes to be used more effectively?

(More info at: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/fer...sservice.shtml)
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Think about it: along with prioritized signaling, attractive stations, longer distances btwn stops, and paid-before-boarding will make BRT run faster than conventional buses and close to subway functionality.
As I think about it, a BRT is far less effective compared to the SAS. There's no way a bus in Manhattan can keep up with the speed and quality of an (express) subway. Plus: you waste a lot of space at street level. Plus: the SAS will be integrated in the NYC subway network, with Q-trains running from Brooklyn via lower Manhattan and the SAS to 125th street, and a possible further extention into The Bronx. That's almost impossible with bus services. Manhattan is just to crowded for a BRT at street level.

The construction of the SAS is IMHO an effective way of spending taxes. And it gives no pollution at street level and is sustainable for the future.
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 05:03 AM   #996
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Honestly, I just think that trains are way more efficient. If you manage your power sources correctly, subways don't pollute. Subways might be a tad bit quieter.
Buses pollute directly, though it doesn't need to be said they are more efficient than private cars. And if you really want to be efficient, use your bike!

PS: What is SAS and ART?
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As big a failure as today's British economy thanks to the policies instituted by that bitch.
So policies that brought a country out of debt and into a surplus during a recession, improving the quality of life, and cut taxes whilst making money are failures? Yes her social policies sucked and the poll tax was a disaster, but overall I dare you to come up with someone as good as she was nowadays. Thatcher had guts and was one hell of a PM, and this is coming from a Lib Dem.
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I guess you mean BRT... Bus Rapid Transit
SAS = Second Avenue Subway
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Cities try to argue for BRT these days because they simply don't have the $ to invest in a new subway line. It's a patch to a problem, and sometimes it works. But you can't rely on BRTs all over a city to efficiently carry large volumes of passengers. Subways carry far more people more efficiently.
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BRT Not as Efficient, But Cheaper in Long Run

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As I think about it, a BRT is far less effective compared to the SAS. There's no way a bus in Manhattan can keep up with the speed and quality of an (express) subway. Plus: you waste a lot of space at street level. Plus: the SAS will be integrated in the NYC subway network, with Q-trains running from Brooklyn via lower Manhattan and the SAS to 125th street, and a possible further extention into The Bronx. That's almost impossible with bus services. Manhattan is just to crowded for a BRT at street level.

The construction of the SAS is IMHO an effective way of spending taxes. And it gives no pollution at street level and is sustainable for the future.
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Buses pollute directly, though it doesn't need to be said they are more efficient than private cars. And if you really want to be efficient, use your bike!
True, a bus will never beat a train running under normal speeds. And trust me, as a railfan, there is no doubt I would prefer a subway over a bus. But the point of BRT is not to equal the subway but act as a substitution to complement it - currently the Lexington Ave. Line is the most crowded line during rush hours and is frequently delayed because of it is over-capacity. Having anything running parallel service would help relieve this line.

The new express track for the Q train has already been shelved several months ago with the elimination of the central track of the 96th St station on the SAS. An extension into the Bronx is unlikely in the next 430 years since it would involve completely new construction. Construction costs will undoubtedly rise and the current projection of 2018 is the completion date of ONLY PHASE I. 3 more phases remain.

Why BRT saves more money in the long run:
  • No foundation/settlement issues during construction-something that, especially with the legacy of Manhattan buildings, is constantly in the news.
  • There is no need to power lights in the tunnels or stations, street lights are already present
  • Signaling powering and maintenance is provided by DOT, initial build costs are cheap
  • Track flooding, a major problem, creates the need for higher maintenance costs for pumps, leak prevention, etc.
  • No need for powering fans for ventilation-BRT is out in the open
  • Today's MTA buses are "Clean Air Hybrid-Electric Buses": quiet and a lot less polluting. New buses are also handicapped accessible with planks that fold out onto the street. Eliminates the need for installing costly elevators, especially since they breakdown all the time and take forever to repair.
  • Opens the way for a shared and protected bike lane
  • Space is not an issue: 2nd Ave is 4 lanes (+2 for parking), and the point of building mass transit is to discourage driving = less pollution
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