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Old September 21st, 2011, 05:55 PM   #1381
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I think you need to check your claim that most of the system is above ground. By any measure - route length, track mileage, stations - most of the system is underground.
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http://www.nycsubway.org/faq/factsfigures.html

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Underground stations 277
Elevated Stations 153
Embankment Stations 29
Open Cut Stations 9
Total 468
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Mainline Track Miles (for Passenger Service)
Underground: 443
Elevated: 156
At grade/open cut: 57
Total: 656 miles
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Old September 21st, 2011, 06:03 PM   #1382
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Old September 21st, 2011, 06:34 PM   #1383
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recent photos from the mta flickr account:

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After a water main break at 106th Street, workers from MTA New York City Transit pumped out up to 10 feet of flood water on the A, B, C & D tracks on Sept. 19, 2011. Photo by Metropolitan Transportation Authority / Patrick Cashin.

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Old September 21st, 2011, 06:39 PM   #1384
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just because the subway doesn't close at night is no excuse for being dirty (or ugly for that matter)
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Old September 21st, 2011, 07:56 PM   #1385
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Would knowing about today's grime-free subways there compared to the city's prior fleets make you any happier?
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Old September 21st, 2011, 08:15 PM   #1386
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Certainly progress has been made, but there is still much ahead. MTA loses a hell of money on much less used buses, instead of upgrading the subway network. Old youtube videos, NY Times articles on its online database etc. have horror portraits of the NYC subway before Giuliani. Looks like a war-zone, cars completely destroyed with back-to-back graffiti, rampant turnstile-jumping, stations deemed to dangerous for the average person at night, smoking in the platforms etc.

IMVHO, something that greatly accentuates the perception of dirt are the steel beams and the white tiles near the tracks, which are hard to clean. They could solve both problems building some cover around the beams and changing the small squared tiles for concrete overlay.
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Old September 21st, 2011, 08:23 PM   #1387
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Why problem? to make it cleaner for rats at track level?
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Old September 21st, 2011, 09:21 PM   #1388
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[QUOTE=Woonsocket54;84001639]recent photos from the mta flickr account:

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After a water main break at 106th Street, workers from MTA New York City Transit pumped out up to 10 feet of flood water on the A, B, C & D tracks on Sept. 19, 2011. Photo by Metropolitan Transportation Authority / Patrick Cashin.
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Old September 21st, 2011, 09:22 PM   #1389
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Old September 22nd, 2011, 06:29 PM   #1390
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New York, USA, North America or the world?
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Old September 22nd, 2011, 07:41 PM   #1391
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I'd say N America -- for instance, it would appear NYC streets are now cleaner than Montreal's.
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Old September 25th, 2011, 10:11 AM   #1392
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Old September 25th, 2011, 07:09 PM   #1393
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gotta love that NY spirit -- were our metros run above aground and had that happened at a station here, I'm certain the disembarking passengers would've left through other doors -- also makes me wonder how they would've exited the train had the water not appeared as transparent
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Old September 25th, 2011, 10:43 PM   #1394
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I have seen some terrible filty pictures of nyc subway, and the mta officials and fat cats are crooks, they want cheffeur driven cars to go to work and not take the subway ?
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Old September 26th, 2011, 02:31 PM   #1395
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Thank gosh I did not see the ugliness & flithiness of Chambers St from the J Line when I visited in March. And the fare hikes are especially horrible when the top dogs are continually allowed to get away with excessive pampering.
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Old September 26th, 2011, 06:53 PM   #1396
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"oh it's horrible.oh it's dirty..all the transit officals are crooks, they need new station like some broke European or Asian country. oh boo hoo."...You guys act like the World will stop spinning soon if the problems of the NYC subway aren't solved....jeez,

Get over yourselves..The bottom line is that the system works.
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Let's all make accusations against MTA officials without any proof or citations.

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Old September 26th, 2011, 11:24 PM   #1398
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I know, huh? These dissing intercontinentlers behave like they themselves never had a time when their own top-dog transit management also used to live more like the world's Barney Millers instead of today's Diors and Armanis shame! shame! shame!
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Thank gosh I did not see the ugliness & flithiness of Chambers St from the J Line when I visited in March. And the fare hikes are especially horrible when the top dogs are continually allowed to get away with excessive pampering.
For someone who loves the Paris Métro, I think it's pretty hard to criticise the subway for cleanliness. Every time I've used the Métro I can't help but think how dirty it is.
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