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Old December 1st, 2011, 02:27 PM   #1501
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Have you used L 14 in paris?

Because it's hard to do better in terms of stations+system.
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Old December 1st, 2011, 05:17 PM   #1502
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" ... Born: 1930 to 1947
80 to 63 years old"

What happened to the authority's records, I thought this crummy grade of heritage documentation was limited to Canada over here?
The heritage train is a mixture of several different types, so I would guess that the oldest car was built in 1930 and the youngest in 1947. If you pause the video at 0:16 you'll see one car that's completely different from the others.
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Old December 1st, 2011, 06:24 PM   #1503
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We have a modern system and a better system then Paris...Paris does not have the speed we have or the express tracks...
please ignore the French troll
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Old December 1st, 2011, 07:30 PM   #1504
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Interesting, Gag Halfrunt, for I presumed the appealing stainless steel(?) cars (second and third ones?) as hailing from the '50s.
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Old December 1st, 2011, 10:50 PM   #1505
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I was about to say the same thing. The R160 is still very much brand new, and the R142 isn't far behind.
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Old December 1st, 2011, 10:52 PM   #1506
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The CBTC failed a few days ago and half the blame can be placed on Alstom which has a history of issues in there products in North America.
Ouch!

I hope this doesn't include the R160A, which was manufactured by Alstom. I LOVE THOSE TRAINS!
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 03:54 AM   #1507
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We have a modern system and a better system then Paris...Paris does not have the speed we have or the express tracks...
New York does not have the RER...
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 06:31 AM   #1508
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New York does not have the RER...
We have Regional Rail which is used by 1 million people and covers 1000mi...
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 06:58 AM   #1509
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New York does not have the RER...
Paris Metro = NYC local subway trains
RER = NYC express subway trains
Transilien = Metro North/LIRR/NJ Transit

by the way, Paris does not have the Staten Island Ferry
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 07:46 AM   #1510
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@Nexis: I don't think distance is terribly valuable criteria. Even in the context of just providing service to distant areas, the three networks are pretty poor at their far ends.
@Woonsocket54: The RER is so much more than the equivalent to New York's express trains. It roughly functions in that capacity in Paris, but it acts as a metro-ized commuter rail system outside the city proper, providing a service quality far beyond what presently exists on the commuter railroads in the New York area. We would be so lucky to have such a system.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 04:06 PM   #1511
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@Nexis: I don't think distance is terribly valuable criteria. Even in the context of just providing service to distant areas, the three networks are pretty poor at their far ends.
@Woonsocket54: The RER is so much more than the equivalent to New York's express trains. It roughly functions in that capacity in Paris, but it acts as a metro-ized commuter rail system outside the city proper, providing a service quality far beyond what presently exists on the commuter railroads in the New York area. We would be so lucky to have such a system.
Well its a very well used system and is expanding....
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 06:29 PM   #1512
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...and is probably still the world's second-busiest (after Moscow)
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 01:23 AM   #1513
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I would think that greater Tokyo has the busiest commuter rail network in the world... IIRC, the Osaka metro area also has higher commuter rail ridership than New York.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 01:59 AM   #1514
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Sydney has higher commuter rail ridership than New York. Sydney's CityRail system carries 1,000,000 people per day (IIRC New York's 3 commuter rail systems carry around 920,000 per day). But Sydney dosn't have a subway system.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 02:30 AM   #1515
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By the end of the decade thanks to increased bi-directional commuting and expansions to growing denser areas Regional Rail ridership should hit 1.3-1.7 Million depending on what gets expanding. Natural infill around stations and growth would bring the number to 1.1 Million.
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Even after LIRR gets its ESA to GCT and IF (a big IF) another tube gets built under the Hudson, I still doubt they'll hit 1.3 million by 2020. Maybe if MNRR starts routing some NHL trains to NYP and adds stations in East Bx.

Here's the new GCT entrance at 44th & Madison (future)

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Old December 5th, 2011, 06:20 AM   #1517
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Old December 6th, 2011, 12:53 PM   #1518
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it hurts me ! I don't know why but i can't imagine NYC not have a cutting edge new system. This city deserves a new system.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 01:21 PM   #1519
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They definitely deserve a couple new, sleek, modern lines. Even fully automated like Paris' Line 14.

Of course, with the budget, this will never happen within the next 50 years.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 01:56 PM   #1520
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Paris Metro = NYC local subway trains
RER = NYC express subway trains
Transilien = Metro North/LIRR/NJ Transit

by the way, Paris does not have the Staten Island Ferry
NYC does not have the Bateaux Mouches
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