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Old December 22nd, 2011, 10:59 PM   #1561
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Back in the '80s, either the E or F trains were 12 cars long, no?
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Old December 24th, 2011, 02:58 AM   #1562
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Back in the '80s, either the E or F trains were 12 cars long, no?
No, they only went up to 11 cars. That was a trial to see if they could increase line capacity without increasing the number of trains on the line. This was discontinued due to the fact that not all platforms on those lines can accommodate 11 cars, thereby leaving the last car hanging off the platform. This setup was recently (1-2 years back now) trialed using a modified set of R160s, but once the trial was complete, the train was reconverted back to standard configuration.

EDIT: http://secondavenuesagas.com/2009/04...-overcrowding/
Info on the 11 car test train for all who are interested in reading.
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Old December 26th, 2011, 06:08 AM   #1563
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Old December 31st, 2011, 05:01 AM   #1564
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Old January 1st, 2012, 07:36 PM   #1565
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It seems to be very common for NY subway vehicles to have the national flag on them (as is the case on other US systems to a lesser extent) yet this seems rare outside the US. Is there some specific reason this happens (such as a national regulation) or is it just a tradition?
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Old January 1st, 2012, 09:20 PM   #1566
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It seems to be very common for NY subway vehicles to have the national flag on them (as is the case on other US systems to a lesser extent) yet this seems rare outside the US. Is there some specific reason this happens (such as a national regulation) or is it just a tradition?
I was going to mention that but didn't get around to it. I don't know what it is about Americans and their flag, but you see the stars and stripes everywhere. Such overt patriotism isn't something we do over this side of the pond, probably because we associate flag waving with our rather violent past?

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Old January 1st, 2012, 10:01 PM   #1567
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I believe the flags on the NYC subway is to do with commemorating the two numbers either side of ten.
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Old January 1st, 2012, 11:05 PM   #1568
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Concrete is far superior for elevated lines. If properly cared for, it doesn't get rusty, and doesn't have to be painted...
Have you seen the state of the elevated lines in and around NYC ? The iron, which is much more durable isnt even properly cared for, let alone concrete
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 01:19 AM   #1569
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I was going to mention that but didn't get around to it. I don't know what it is about Americans and their flag, but you see the stars and stripes everywhere. Such overt patriotism isn't something we do over this side of the pond, probably because we associate flag waving with our rather violent past?

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:rolls eyes: who cares?

next time i'm in the UK, please kindly remove your flags so that I and other American visitors do not feel offended.
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 12:21 PM   #1570
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Made in America trains get that flag , same with buses and streetcars..
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 11:08 PM   #1571
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next time i'm in the UK, please kindly remove your flags so that I and other American visitors do not feel offended.
Grow up, he didn't say he was offended, the question was well put and not offensive in any way shape or form and appears to be from genuine curiosity. Must admit I too have always wonder why the flag appears almost everywhere, including on workers uniforms etc.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 06:37 AM   #1572
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Wrong; the question was meant to offend or at the very least annoy - probably sourced from some bigotry that forces the poster to equate American patriotism with jingoism, or perhaps some embarrassment by all the genocide inspired by the Union Jack. Let my people fly their flag.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 07:21 AM   #1573
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I honestly didn't mean to offend anyone, I just wasn't sure where the practice stemmed from since it seems to be fairly unique. I didn't mean to imply that I thought there was anything wrong with it. To be honest, it doesn't matter to me how NY MTA prefers to decorate it's vehicles; I just like to learn about it once the decisions are made.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 04:59 PM   #1574
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Grow up, he didn't say he was offended, the question was well put and not offensive in any way shape or form and appears to be from genuine curiosity. Must admit I too have always wonder why the flag appears almost everywhere, including on workers uniforms etc.
That's how we roll. Simple. If I saw any other nations flag when I went there to visit it would not bother me a bit.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 10:13 PM   #1575
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Wrong; the question was meant to offend or at the very least annoy - probably sourced from some bigotry that forces the poster to equate American patriotism with jingoism, or perhaps some embarrassment by all the genocide inspired by the Union Jack. Let my people fly their flag.
Well guess if you were offended by the question, it goes to show how good the teaching of the English language is in the US.
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Old January 4th, 2012, 10:56 PM   #1576
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(My town's having an exceedingly-embarassing and apalling problem with its outdoor concrete.)

BTW, I like your avatar -- I fell in love with that terminal, coming across it there some years ago, yet only learned recently that it was the Michigan Central Station
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Old January 9th, 2012, 11:59 PM   #1578
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New York's 7 line extension steams ahead.



In the waning days of 2011, Shawn Kildare gave a tour 130 feet below Eleventh Avenue. Kildare, a senior vice president at the MTA, delivered some good news to the small group gawking at the huge caverns carved for the Number 7 Subway Extension. The project, he said, is ten months ahead of schedule and under budget. With the Second Avenue subway progressing in fits and starts, hobbled by community complaints, the new Number 7, which boasts few residential neighbors, looks poised to take the prize as New York’s newest subway exension.


Workers prepare a new communication center beneath Eleventh Ave.


as ventilation rises at right; Subgrade work continues for parkland entrance to subway


Two tunnels run east to meet the park entrance

The new station, engineered by Parsons Brinkerhoff, will take one of the system’s busiest train lines from its westernmost terminus at Times Square, to Eleventh Avenue and 34th Street—and perhaps, one day, to New Jersey. The extension may prove a viable alternative to the regional tunnel that New Jersey governor Chris Christie squashed in 2010. As currently planned, the new station will serve the mass-transit-challenged Javits Center and Related Hudson Yards project, to say nothing of Brookfield Properties’ Manhattan West proposal. It will accommodate 25,000 commuters per hour, and an additional six trains added to the line will find room to park and/or maneuver on extra tracks positioned just north and south of the new subway platform.


The Number Seven line extension tunnel


The varying placements of the keystone panels were determined by computer


Cement being sprayed atop Manhattan schist.


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